From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: master 97cb255: newcomment.el (comment-line): New command on C-x C-; . Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 22:21:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <170f49f4-456a-4381-981b-2c1e2c003b6e@default> References: <20150208190338.30436.1351@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <87lhk8w4jt.fsf@gmx.net> <2d8fcbc0-7f63-43de-9376-da8ed881d3e2@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423549307 786 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2015 06:21:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 10 07:21:43 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YL4CZ-000716-FW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 07:21:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37708 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL4CY-00060d-TK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:21:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45883) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL4CV-00060N-2D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:21:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL4CR-0003iP-RK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:21:34 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:34810) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL4CR-0003hw-Li for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:21:31 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t1A6LS0v025483 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:21:29 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t1A6LR8G000076 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:21:28 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t1A6LROg024120; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:21:27 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182781 Archived-At: > Yes, I did give it a try and it was a conscious decision, but let me star= t by saying I didn't put a huge amount of thought into it.=20 > There were three factors that made me choose this: > 1. Reversing direction while going up can also be done by just hitting so= me harmless key like C-a (for this particular command, C-a is harmless). Th= at takes the same number of keys as C-- and has the same effect. In some ca= ses (when you're moving one line at a time), `undo' will also do what you w= ant with even less keys.=20 > 2. A good portion of users won't expect it to behave like that (even if i= t's written in the doc). This also applies to the current version, but see = below.=20 > 3. Unlike the current "persistent negative argument effect", this "revers= e direction twice" functionality seems like it would come up very rarely, p= robably less than the number of times it would catch someone by surprise.= =20 > Combine 3 with the fact that it has perfectly plausible alternatives for = those instances when it does come up, and that's I why I decided this way.= =20 > As I said, I just thought of this very briefly. Items 2 and 3 are really = just hunches. Like I said: >> It won't be the first time I will have my own local version of >> something.