From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tooltip-use-echo-area disappeared Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:07:34 +1200 Message-ID: <17074.23190.437628.941264@farnswood.snap.net.nz> References: <429EBEBF.4080005@gnu.org> <17054.53387.737275.879063@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <1117715090.429efa926ded0@webmail.freedom2surf.net> <17055.728.887711.842945@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <42AD7E51.4000506@gnu.org> <17069.62614.145616.263552@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17070.23884.564148.959259@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17071.19762.509791.894078@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17073.17279.786889.746162@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118985666 12024 80.91.229.2 (17 Jun 2005 05:21:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 05:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 17 07:21:03 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dj9HX-0000Ab-V6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:20:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dj9N6-0008AE-06 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:26:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dj9L0-0007Kx-Jk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:24:19 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dj9Kv-0007Ib-QG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:24:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dj9Ku-0007BH-Qy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:24:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [202.37.101.8] (helo=viper.snap.net.nz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dj950-0002Di-8i; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from farnswood.snap.net.nz (p224-tnt1.snap.net.nz [202.124.110.224]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5581B55DC7F; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:05:45 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by farnswood.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1A68062A99; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:07:35 +0100 (BST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.50.71 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38999 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38999 > I'm not sure that you've followed the whole thread. > > I can never follow the whole of such a thread. I don't have time! > > The feature of being > able to display help messages and GUD variable values in the echo area > has *not* been removed. On the other hand, the variable > tooltip-use-echo-area has been made obsolete because it involves an > ugly hack that intertwines the code in tooltip.el and gud.el. > > I must be confused. If that feature exists, doesn't tooltip-use-echo-area > control whether to enable it? That is one way, but not the only one. I suggest that we leave it as obsolete - that doesn't mean it has to go, just that we don't have to feel guilty if we do remove it. Nick