From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tooltip-use-echo-area disappeared Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:16:47 +1200 Message-ID: <17073.17279.786889.746162@farnswood.snap.net.nz> References: <429EBEBF.4080005@gnu.org> <17054.53387.737275.879063@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <1117715090.429efa926ded0@webmail.freedom2surf.net> <17055.728.887711.842945@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <42AD7E51.4000506@gnu.org> <17069.62614.145616.263552@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17070.23884.564148.959259@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17071.19762.509791.894078@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118914204 31513 80.91.229.2 (16 Jun 2005 09:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 16 11:29:54 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Diqg6-00016S-1z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:28:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiqlT-00025p-EN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:34:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DiqcJ-0007FE-Mj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:24:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DiqcF-0007CQ-3K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:24:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiqcE-0006oU-B9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:24:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [202.37.101.8] (helo=viper.snap.net.nz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DiqUU-0003yB-UQ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:16:51 -0400 Original-Received: from farnswood.snap.net.nz (p195-tnt2.snap.net.nz [202.124.108.195]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187695591ED; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:14:59 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by farnswood.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 501) id 9FD0062A99; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:16:48 +0100 (BST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.50.71 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38946 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38946 > OK. I've just installed changes that try to restore the behaviour of > tooltip-use-echo-area. I guess I should try to give people what they > want rather than what I think they should have. > > It should not be obsolete. This feature should not be removed. > It is a useful feature. I'm not sure that you've followed the whole thread. The feature of being able to display help messages and GUD variable values in the echo area has *not* been removed. On the other hand, the variable tooltip-use-echo-area has been made obsolete because it involves an ugly hack that intertwines the code in tooltip.el and gud.el. The associated doc string describes how to get the same functionality without it. It can't be that useful: only users of Semantic noticed that there had been a change. Nick