From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Incompatible change without warning Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:49:00 +1200 Message-ID: <17035.61580.568515.598030@farnswood.snap.net.nz> References: <17027.30024.418184.567765@chls068.ch.intel.com> <17034.42710.151931.874355@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1116469202 22958 80.91.229.2 (19 May 2005 02:20:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 02:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Andrew M. Scott" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 19 04:20:00 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DYad4-00085U-Iv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 May 2005 04:19:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DYafc-0005in-OG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:21:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DYabZ-0002Sw-Tj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:17:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DYabY-0002Rh-78 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:17:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DYabV-00022b-1U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:17:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [202.37.101.8] (helo=viper.snap.net.nz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DYaGf-0003my-9i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from farnswood.snap.net.nz (p107-tnt1.snap.net.nz [202.124.110.107]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3615535E70; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:47:43 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by farnswood.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 501) id 62CF562A99; Thu, 19 May 2005 02:49:01 +0100 (BST) Original-To: Glenn Morris In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.50.52 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:37326 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:37326 > A function which was in the previous release of Emacs is now gone, > without ever being marked as obsolete in any released version of > Emacs. To me, this seems like a Bad Thing. What the function did, or > how external packages chose to use it, seem irrelevant. The entry in subr.el suggested it was obsoleted in Emacs 19.32: > (make-obsolete 'unfocus-frame "it does nothing." "19.32") However, looking through the ChangeLogs, it looks like you are right. On a related note, I see Juanma has obsoleted functions in subr.el without a timestamp: (define-obsolete-function-alias 'window-dot 'window-point) ... I presume that should be: (define-obsolete-function-alias 'window-dot 'window-point "22.1") ... to make it easier to know when obsoletion really took place. Nick