From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Incompatible change without "warning" Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:35:42 +1200 Message-ID: <16997.31150.143615.77073@farnswood.snap.net.nz> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113946403 9691 80.91.229.2 (19 Apr 2005 21:33:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 19 23:33:20 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DO0Kg-0007nV-BC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:32:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DO0P4-0004Nk-2S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:37:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DO0Op-0004Lu-9E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:36:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DO0On-0004KL-DF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:36:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DO0On-0003lT-23 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:36:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [202.37.101.8] (helo=viper.snap.net.nz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DO0Pw-00060i-SY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:38:01 -0400 Original-Received: from farnswood.snap.net.nz (p210-tnt1.snap.net.nz [202.124.110.210]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E276B4ADA80; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:35:56 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by farnswood.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 501) id E21B862A99; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:35:42 +0100 (BST) Original-To: Frank Schmitt In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.50.15 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36125 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36125 > I see that on 2005-4-18 the tooltip-use-echo-area was renamed to > tooltip-gud-echo-area. This change breaks existing code > (semantic). Isn't it common practise to first deprecate a variable > before deleting it? And shouldn't this make it into NEWS? I should also add that tooltip-gud-echo-area doesn't do exactly the same thing as tooltip-use-echo-area: it only uses the echo area for GUD tooltips. Help messages are still displayed in their own tooltip frame. Previously using the echo area for GUD tooltips required help messages to be displayed there also. Turning tooltip-mode off means that help messages displayed in the echo area and that GUD tooltips are no longer displayed. Maybe this change is not as good as I first thought because now it is not possible to have both GUD tooltips and help messages displayed in the echo area. Nick