From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:29:57 +1200 Message-ID: <16980.64917.86803.288027@farnswood.snap.net.nz> References: <200504020351.j323ppS16391@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <16974.11752.332998.125628@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <200504021346.j32Dk3e19471@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <16978.12100.857894.861739@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <200504060000.j3600bm15264@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112866562 32223 80.91.229.2 (7 Apr 2005 09:36:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 07 11:35:59 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJTPz-0006lC-Is for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:35:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJSzG-0002iE-FM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 05:07:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DJSxH-00027L-QR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 05:05:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJSxG-00023S-Gj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 05:05:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [202.37.101.8] (helo=viper.snap.net.nz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DJTLp-00022t-OJ; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 05:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from farnswood.snap.net.nz (p250-tnt2.snap.net.nz [202.124.108.250]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F9A4ABE65; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:30:16 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by farnswood.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 501) id C2DBC62A99; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:29:57 +0100 (BST) Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.50.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35687 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35687 > The "Linux kernel console" -- as the user sees it on a GNU/Linux system-- > is typically just a process started by the kernel which runs "/bin/sh". > > So when the user interacts with the console, he is interacting with > GNU software (e.g. bash), not the kernel. In this context the user is always (indirectly) interacting with the kernel. The shell needn't be bash though, it might be tcsh. I guess you could login with no GNU software (init, mingetty, login, tcsh ?) although presumably you couldn't do much useful. I think calling it the GNU/Linux console could harm the GNU Project: it could create a backlash from kernel developers who are currently sympathetic to the use of GNU/Linux to describe the system. Nick