From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ian Jackson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior? Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:10:40 +0000 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <16405.8160.368983.564809@chiark.greenend.org.uk> References: <877jzn2lk8.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <16401.5059.249741.523854@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <16404.63472.223534.499091@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <876E93D9-5003-11D8-BC55-00039363E640@swipnet.se> <16405.6371.146753.920453@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <9F0108AE-5006-11D8-BAB0-00039363E640@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1075129824 18607 80.91.224.253 (26 Jan 2004 15:10:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Simon Josefsson , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 26 16:10:15 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Al8NS-0008CO-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:10:14 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Al8NS-0007zt-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:10:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Al8Kr-0004Cj-Fi for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:07:33 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Al7lY-0000Kd-Jz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:31:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Al7kj-0008Mg-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:30:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1Al7en-0005YU-82; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:24:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [193.201.200.170] (helo=chiark.greenend.org.uk) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Al7Rz-0008JO-Bg; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:10:51 -0500 Original-Received: by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with local id 1Al7Ro-0008Vk-00; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:10:40 +0000 Original-To: "Jan D." In-Reply-To: <9F0108AE-5006-11D8-BAB0-00039363E640@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: VM 7.03 under Emacs 19.34.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19489 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19489 Jan D. writes ("Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior?"): > > Jan D. writes ("Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior?"): > >> The point is if this is changed, there will be places where Emacs > >> previously did deliver mail, and now no longer does. It is an > >> incompatible change, not to be made lightly IMHO. > > > > Currently there are large numbers of places where Emacs sometimes > > loses mail ! > > But since delivery is made in the foreground, you notice when that > happens. Is it worth it to exchange this to a situation where mail > is prehaps very quietly not delivered? No, the situation I'm complaining about is precisely silent mail loss. I think you're mistaken about the current default: it's to deliver in the _background_, because Emacs effectively backgrounds /usr/lib/sendmail. Ian.