From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ian Jackson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior? Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:20:16 +0000 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <16404.63472.223534.499091@chiark.greenend.org.uk> References: <877jzn2lk8.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <16401.5059.249741.523854@chiark.greenend.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1075116153 19676 80.91.224.253 (26 Jan 2004 11:22:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Simon Josefsson Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 26 12:22:25 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Al4oy-0001pJ-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:22:24 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Al4oy-00031n-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:22:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Al4ob-0006ve-4N for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:22:01 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Al4oA-0006aX-BA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:21:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Al4nX-0005ty-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:21:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [193.201.200.170] (helo=chiark.greenend.org.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Al4n0-0005X4-NL; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:20:22 -0500 Original-Received: by chiark.greenend.org.uk (Debian Exim 3.35 #1) with local id 1Al4mu-0006gh-00; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:20:16 +0000 Original-To: "Jan D." In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.03 under Emacs 19.34.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19482 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19482 Jan D. writes ("Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior?"): > This may not do the right thing. It is not uncommon to not run any > sendmail daemon, but just forward everything to another host. If we > do it like this, the mail will never be delivered, but sit in the > queue forever. There is no reliable way for Emacs to prevent /usr/lib/sendmail from choosing to sit on the mail, if that's what it's configured by the sysadmin to do. Consider an installation whose mail hub is temporarily down. System administrators can avoid this kind of grief by installing (or configuring) an implementation of /usr/lib/sendmail which always immediately delivers to the mail hub (by SMTP or otherwise) and has no queue. Requiring this is not a problem because all mail-sending programs on the client machine need the same behaviour. Ian.