From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.mail.mh-e.devel,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: mh-e/mh-acros.el advices `require' incorrectly Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:19:50 -0800 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <15962.1137518390@olgas.newt.com> References: <837.1137190309@olgas.newt.com> <87vewmifds.fsf@olgas.newt.com> <4375.1137374996@olgas.newt.com> <1906.1137471641@olgas.newt.com> <85irsjw6ty.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1137518602 15283 80.91.229.2 (17 Jan 2006 17:23:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Original-X-From: mh-e-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Tue Jan 17 18:23:17 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gmmd-mh-e-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists-outbound.sourceforge.net ([66.35.250.225]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EyuWV-0003Iu-Iv for gmmd-mh-e-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:21:38 +0100 Original-Received: from sc8-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net (sc8-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net [10.3.1.7]) by sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E27E120A0; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:21:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from sc8-sf-mx2-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.92] helo=mail.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EyuV2-0003bI-L4 for mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:20:04 -0800 Original-Received: from pop-tawny.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.67]) by mail.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1EyuUx-0004Ey-9i for mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:20:01 -0800 Original-Received: from h-68-165-6-145.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.165.6.145] helo=olgas.newt.com) by pop-tawny.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EyuUp-0001Am-00; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:19:51 -0500 Original-Received: by olgas.newt.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7FA0616FD9; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:19:50 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from olgas.newt.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olgas.newt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5BC16F4D; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:19:50 -0800 (PST) Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: David Kastrup's message of Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:18:33 +0100. <85irsjw6ty.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.85+cvs; nmh 1.1; GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 X-Image-URL: http://www.newt.com/wohler/images/bill-diving.png Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. Report problems to http://sf.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=200001 1.0 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO Original-Sender: mh-e-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: mh-e-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Forum for the MH-E developers List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:19:50 -0800 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.mail.mh-e.devel:11357 gmane.emacs.devel:49209 Archived-At: David Kastrup wrote: > Bill Wohler writes: > > > Maybe. I'm investigating it right now since it seems that every day > > we uncover a new problem associated with the current mess. It's > > extremely brittle. The changes will either work or they won't. If > > they do, I think it would actually add to the stability of the > > release to check in the changes. I'll let you know how it goes. > > You are aware that this sounds like smoldering duct tape all over? > I am not at all acquainted with the involved code, but if you feel it > is best described with those words... The code has roots from the early 80's so it's long past the smoldering point ;-). But the bones are strong; it just needs a renovation ;-). I usually describe it in these words: http://mh-e.sourceforge.net/ -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642