From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Masterson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk version getting closer Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:06:32 -0800 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <15832.30040.736000.792089@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037597004 19944 80.91.224.249 (18 Nov 2002 05:23:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 05:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18DeNX-0005BX-00 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 06:23:23 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18DePb-0008A5-00 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 06:25:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18DeLn-00020J-00; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 00:21:35 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18De7V-0005Kc-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 00:06:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18De7P-00054e-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 00:06:45 -0500 Original-Received: from kiruna.synopsys.com ([204.176.20.18]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18De7O-0004zF-00; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 00:06:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mother.synopsys.com (mother.synopsys.com [146.225.100.171]) by kiruna.synopsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B22DFB03; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:06:40 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from DMASTER-LAP.synopsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mother.synopsys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA07364; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:05:36 -0800 (PST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.03 under Emacs 21.1.1 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9511 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9511 >>>>> Richard Stallman writes: > You first select "What's this?" if it's available (not always provided > and sometimes it's a simple "?" next to the window's minimize button). > Then you select the "leaf" menu item of interest (ie. menus with > submenus don't trigger the "What's this?"). The menu remains open > during and after the tooltip is shown. > This is almost identical to C-h k. That shows the doc string of the > menu item command. Agreed. I have found that it's not obvious that "describe-key" can also be applied to menus and buttons. Therefore, I would suggest adding a "What's this?" entry to the standard Help menu that simply does describe-key. You can leave the "Describe Key" entry in the Describe menu of the Help menu. Because of MS-Windows precedent, this should make it's use a little more obvious. -- David Masterson David DOT Masterson AT synopsys DOT com Sr. R&D Engineer Synopsys, Inc. Software Engineering Sunnyvale, CA