From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Masterson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk version getting closer Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 14:35:40 -0800 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <15829.30396.61000.898427@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <200211071936.gA7JaBMU001860@stubby.bodenonline.com> <8296-Fri15Nov2002193120+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> <3405-Sat16Nov2002001552+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037401125 2533 80.91.224.249 (15 Nov 2002 22:58:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18CpQC-0000ej-00 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 23:58:44 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18CpdH-0004H7-00 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 00:12:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18CpNo-0006u0-00; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:56:16 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18Cp42-0000Qc-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:35:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18Cp3y-0000N4-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:35:48 -0500 Original-Received: from kiruna.synopsys.com ([204.176.20.18]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Cp3x-0000KB-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:35:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mother.synopsys.com (mother.synopsys.com [146.225.100.171]) by kiruna.synopsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7682FF35; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 14:35:41 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from DMASTER-LAP.synopsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mother.synopsys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24849; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 14:34:43 -0800 (PST) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <3405-Sat16Nov2002001552+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> X-Mailer: VM 7.03 under Emacs 21.1.1 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9467 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9467 >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: David Masterson >> Date: 15 Nov 2002 10:46:43 -0800 >> >> >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> From: David Masterson >> >> Date: 15 Nov 2002 08:36:44 -0800 >> >> >> >> if you were going to use the menu, I would think the tooltip >> >> popping up might get in the way. >> >> > Can't you prevent this by customizing tooltip-x-offset and >> > tooltip-y-offset, or maybe tooltip-delay? >> >> I guess it's a preference thing. Some people are used to tooltips >> popping up all the time and, so, it doesn't distract them if >> they're not interested in the tooltip. Others prefer the tooltip >> to be available when asked for (as in "What's this?") and would be >> annoyed if the tooltip popped up while (say) they were thinking >> about choosing between menuA and menuB. > I was asking whether _you_ in _your_ particular environment can > prevent the annoyance using the customizable options. > If the answer is YES, then users at least have a way of getting the > tooltips out of their way when they use menus. Oh. I haven't tried it yet, but I think I could adapt to things even without the customizable options (it's just a matter of not letting the tooltip popup distract you when it's not neede). However, while I could adapt to it, it doesn't agree with my current preference which would tend toward the "What's this?" approach. As has been true in the past, though, I'm sure that, if you give me a little time to adapt, I'll forget all about the old way of doing things. ;-) -- David Masterson David DOT Masterson AT synopsys DOT com Sr. R&D Engineer Synopsys, Inc. Software Engineering Sunnyvale, CA