From: "Jostein Kjønigsen" <jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: windows installer
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 12:21:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1510485695.3852253.1169712120.2E2D64A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83h8u1p8vt.fsf@gnu.org>
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On Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 08:33 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:46:09 -0500
>>
>> For lack of familiarity with the Windows world, I don't know if
>> typical>> Windows users will want to add it to PATH (as a GNU/Linux user, of
>> course I'd do that), but I think the "frequently" above is incorrect.> Maybe I'm missing something. 29 packages (out of 166) in ELPA have a> Makefile. Taking just one random Makefile, company/Makefile, I see
> this:
>
> EMACS=emacs
> [...]
>
> compile:
> ${EMACS} -Q --batch -L . -f batch-byte-compile company.el company-
> *.el>
> If this Makefile is invoked with "make compile", it clearly expects
> Emacs to be found along PATH. And even if Make is invoked from Emacs,> the directory where the Emacs binary was found is not added to PATH.
> So how can this work without Emacs's binary being on PATH? And what
> am I missing here?
>
Not meaning to come off as any final authority here, but speaking as
someone deeply familiar with the Windows-platform (decades user-
experience, 10+ MS developer certifications, lalala)... With the clause
that I'm not som much a C/C++ kind of guy...
The most obvious problem these packages will encounter is that make (GNU
make, or any other variant) is typically not installed on regular end-
user Windows machines. It's not part of the regular Windows developer
toolchain, which typically relies on MSBuild instead.
Expecting "make" to be available is something I would consider a portability-
problem *with the package*, and I honestly don't think this is the Emacs-
installer's job to put in place.
--
Regards
Jostein Kjønigsen
jostein@kjonigsen.net
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2017-10-26 23:11 windows installer Phillip Lord
2017-10-28 21:47 ` Richard Stallman
2017-11-06 8:11 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
[not found] ` <87h8u6bae3.fsf@russet.org.uk>
[not found] ` <WM!524810e63610127669556b68fb62cde560daf19be50fc52d4d63dd232af7bdb0490810e03b84a6559c9b2017d8462cc3!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2017-11-08 7:31 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-11-10 17:01 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-10 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-10 20:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-10 21:22 ` John Mastro
2017-11-10 21:35 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-11 7:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 11:34 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11 14:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-12 11:21 ` Jostein Kjønigsen [this message]
2017-11-10 21:33 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-11 7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-10 23:27 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11 0:25 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-11 11:25 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-12 0:30 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-12 4:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <87fu9hbytq.fsf@russet.org.uk>
2017-11-13 22:25 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-14 13:08 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 16:15 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 11:24 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<83ineiotjr.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-11-10 21:43 ` Drew Adams
2017-11-10 23:35 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11 7:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 9:42 ` Yuri Khan
2017-11-11 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 16:39 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <87a7zpbxza.fsf@russet.org.uk>
2017-11-13 22:44 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-14 14:54 ` Drew Adams
2017-11-16 16:15 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-16 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-16 16:31 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-16 17:35 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-16 18:10 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 20:45 ` Richard Copley
2017-11-17 7:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-17 7:22 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-17 7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-17 7:25 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 17:42 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-16 17:45 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-22 22:39 ` Phillip Lord
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2017-11-12 8:56 Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-12 9:03 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-12 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-12 12:39 ` Fabrice Popineau
[not found] ` <8760adbxw6.fsf@russet.org.uk>
2017-11-13 22:46 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-14 14:36 ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-14 16:31 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-14 20:12 ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-20 8:46 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-11-20 18:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-22 23:01 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-23 3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-23 18:06 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-23 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-24 19:13 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-24 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-25 11:08 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-25 12:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-27 17:56 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-12 14:14 ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-12 11:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-12 14:27 ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-12 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-12 17:32 ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-12 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
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