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From: "Jostein Kjønigsen" <jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: windows installer
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 12:21:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1510485695.3852253.1169712120.2E2D64A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83h8u1p8vt.fsf@gnu.org>

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On Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 08:33 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:46:09 -0500
>> 
>> For lack of familiarity with the Windows world, I don't know if
>> typical>> Windows users will want to add it to PATH (as a GNU/Linux user, of
>> course I'd do that), but I think the "frequently" above is incorrect.> Maybe I'm missing something.  29 packages (out of 166) in ELPA have a> Makefile.  Taking just one random Makefile, company/Makefile, I see
> this:
> 
>   EMACS=emacs
>   [...]
> 
>   compile:
>   ${EMACS} -Q --batch -L . -f batch-byte-compile company.el company-
>   *.el> 
> If this Makefile is invoked with "make compile", it clearly expects
> Emacs to be found along PATH.  And even if Make is invoked from Emacs,> the directory where the Emacs binary was found is not added to PATH.
> So how can this work without Emacs's binary being on PATH?  And what
> am I missing here?
> 

Not meaning to come off as any final authority here, but speaking as
someone deeply familiar with the Windows-platform (decades user-
experience, 10+ MS developer certifications, lalala)... With the clause
that I'm not som much a C/C++ kind of guy...
The most obvious problem these packages will encounter is that make (GNU
make, or any other variant) is typically not installed on regular end-
user Windows machines. It's not part of the regular Windows developer
toolchain, which typically relies on MSBuild instead.
Expecting "make" to be available is something I would consider a portability-
problem *with the package*, and I honestly don't think this is the Emacs-
installer's job to put in place.
--
Regards
Jostein Kjønigsen
jostein@kjonigsen.net


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-12 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-26 23:11 windows installer Phillip Lord
2017-10-28 21:47 ` Richard Stallman
2017-11-06  8:11 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
     [not found]   ` <87h8u6bae3.fsf@russet.org.uk>
     [not found]     ` <WM!524810e63610127669556b68fb62cde560daf19be50fc52d4d63dd232af7bdb0490810e03b84a6559c9b2017d8462cc3!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2017-11-08  7:31       ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-11-10 17:01         ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-10 18:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-10 20:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-10 21:22               ` John Mastro
2017-11-10 21:35               ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-11  7:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 11:34                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11 14:57                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-12 11:21                 ` Jostein Kjønigsen [this message]
2017-11-10 21:33             ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-11  7:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-10 23:27             ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11  0:25               ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-11 11:25                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-12  0:30                   ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-12  4:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <87fu9hbytq.fsf@russet.org.uk>
2017-11-13 22:25                       ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-14 13:08                         ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 16:15                           ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11  7:48               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 11:24                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11 12:01                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <<83ineiotjr.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-11-10 21:43             ` Drew Adams
2017-11-10 23:35               ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11  7:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11  7:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11  9:42                 ` Yuri Khan
2017-11-11 10:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 16:39                 ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                   ` <87a7zpbxza.fsf@russet.org.uk>
2017-11-13 22:44                     ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-14 14:54                       ` Drew Adams
2017-11-16 16:15                         ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-16 16:23                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-16 16:31                             ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 16:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-16 17:35                                 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 17:39                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-16 18:10                                     ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 20:45                                       ` Richard Copley
2017-11-17  7:14                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-17  7:22                                           ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-17  7:35                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-17  7:25                                         ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 17:42                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-16 17:45                                     ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-22 22:39                                   ` Phillip Lord
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-11-12  8:56 Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-12  9:03 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-12 11:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-12 12:39     ` Fabrice Popineau
     [not found]       ` <8760adbxw6.fsf@russet.org.uk>
2017-11-13 22:46         ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-14 14:36           ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-14 16:31             ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-14 20:12               ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-20  8:46                 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-11-20 18:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-22 23:01                   ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-23  3:43                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-23 18:06                       ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-23 20:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-24 19:13                           ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-24 19:56                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-25 11:08                               ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-25 12:56                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-27 17:56                                   ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-12 14:14   ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-12 11:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-12 14:27   ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-12 15:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-12 17:32       ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-12 18:42         ` Eli Zaretskii

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