From: Greg Minshall <minshall@umich.edu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs script options
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 06:38:24 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1496758.1700318304@archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83cyw7o6m3.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> But if we change that, how can we pass additional options to Emacs
> when invoking it from a script? That is also an important capability,
> and replacing it with what you want seems to be an incompatible
> change, which takes away a capability we have now.
>
> If we want to be able to pass options to the script itself, we need to
> do it in a compatible way, that doesn't lose what we have now.
>
> In any case, could you please show a real-life case where this is
> needed? The -x option was intended to support the use cases where the
> rest of the script is Emacs Lisp code, so what would such a script do
> with an option that is not interpreted by Emacs, and why is that
> needed?
this last point is maybe all i can answer now (your other points are
food for thought, and code-staring). the idea is a generalized facility
that allows script-writers to do whatever they want, define whatever
options they want.
plus, trying to stay out of the way of even current, let alone future,
Emacs options is tricky; realistically, script-writers would need to
require their users to always type double-dashes, e.g.,
----
ls-emacs -- -F
----
which doesn't seem so user-friendly.
in my case, for example, i want to write an Emacs script that has some
familiar options like "-d", "-V", etc., in addition to options to
specify how the script should run (what input files to process, output
files to produce, alterations to behavior).
i could have users do that in an Emacs'y way ('--eval (setq debug 1)').
but, the idea is to provide something that, to the end user, looks like
a standard Unix'y script. if that makes any sense.
cheers, Greg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-18 14:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-18 3:13 (unknown) Greg Minshall
2023-11-18 7:05 ` (unknown) Jim Porter
2023-11-18 14:10 ` (unknown) -x behavior change Greg Minshall
2023-11-18 7:36 ` Emacs script options Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-18 14:38 ` Greg Minshall [this message]
2023-11-18 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-18 19:36 ` Greg Minshall
2023-11-19 5:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-27 3:29 ` Greg Minshall
2023-11-27 12:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-27 19:32 ` Greg Minshall
2023-11-18 19:18 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-11-18 19:49 ` Greg Minshall
2023-11-19 21:39 ` Jens Schmidt
2023-11-19 21:47 ` Jens Schmidt
2023-11-20 1:19 ` Greg Minshall
2023-11-21 21:13 ` Jens Schmidt
2023-11-22 18:17 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-11-22 20:18 ` Jens Schmidt
2023-11-24 4:22 ` Greg Minshall
2023-11-26 18:07 ` Jens Schmidt
2023-11-20 6:10 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-11-20 20:10 ` Jens Schmidt
2023-11-21 8:51 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-11-19 5:04 ` Bob Rogers
2023-11-19 6:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
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