From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simen =?iso-8859-1?q?Heggest=F8yl?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Default mouse wheel scrolling is jumpy Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 23:03:18 +0200 Message-ID: <1431982998.3001.0@smtp.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-41/eaw3V6sNaCUaMylRT" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431984670 3029 80.91.229.3 (18 May 2015 21:31:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 21:31:10 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 18 23:31:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YuScs-0003Vq-Vk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 23:31:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43008 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YuScs-0002hT-G1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 17:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36784) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YuSC6-0006i6-Db for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 17:03:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YuSC3-0002cv-5U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 17:03:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22b]:35913) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YuSC2-0002cg-Sj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 17:03:23 -0400 Original-Received: by lagv1 with SMTP id v1so238187660lag.3 for ; Mon, 18 May 2015 14:03:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:subject:to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=Nw9pbuDZWBMDPOCogpZyOWsdbOdCiaxHXU+TI9aV1O4=; b=yFBkSTf8eVyBj2GnHNDH7c7EEqrBgY34312f2mXHIazK0jE4rvQWHd2oZbNZ+euA3L TUab1wXfaCtdXcDFqUtPXQfvkN9iFO4pIQuWstkBGBgk1OAvnw0VzenLfZdNkbAY/v0p 0gOeqrutJXnCKOj0UnMfdPN0zAYZjo14fjWL7V1y13cay5vkZ6mII927zaeP9mIEaRVA Ng0i2nWgfcZZrhOFPi5wRNS8Iikxnn9kwtvGi7UADgCAzMdTIe/l0kYq+z/RzZuki/BN HrpWTycq5383jwS76XO3h+pPmIA9fo9K+wJUR9K51L9IoHCe6btZnaErjdp0sg38vlES xqqw== X-Received: by 10.112.155.169 with SMTP id vx9mr5689170lbb.121.1431983001313; Mon, 18 May 2015 14:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.100.11] (cm-84.210.143.4.getinternet.no. [84.210.143.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t8sm3015121lby.24.2015.05.18.14.03.19 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 18 May 2015 14:03:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: geary/0.10.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22b X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 18 May 2015 17:30:48 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186601 Archived-At: --=-41/eaw3V6sNaCUaMylRT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Hi. I find the default value of `mouse-wheel-scroll-amount' mysterious. Jumping 5 lines at the time per scroll event (plus more when `mouse-wheel-progressive-speed' is enabled, which it is by default) makes the scrolling feel very "nervous". It's also hard for the eyes to follow the text when it makes such big jumps. It's especially bad in the cases where it's hard to control each scroll event, such as with laptop touchpads or with ThinkPad-style trackpoints. Then I find the default scrolling mechanism next to unusable. Does anyone else feel the same way? If more people agree with this, I propose setting the default scroll amount to 2, or maybe even 1. I also find that the progressive scroll speed functionality contributes to this "nervous" scroll feeling, and I propose turning that off by default as well. This will make scrolling Emacs behave more similar to other applications, and I think it will provide a more pleasant scrolling experience. -- Simen --=-41/eaw3V6sNaCUaMylRT Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi. I find the default value of `mouse-wheel-scroll-amount'
= mysterious. Jumping 5 lines at the time per scroll event (plus more
when `mouse-wheel-progressive-speed' is enabled, which it is bydefault) makes the scrolling feel very "nervous". It's also hard for
the eyes to follow the text when it makes such big jumps.
<= br>
It's especially bad in the cases where it's hard to control e= ach
scroll event, such as with laptop touchpads or with ThinkPad-= style
trackpoints. Then I find the default scrolling mechanism ne= xt to
unusable.

Does anyone else feel th= e same way? If more people agree with this, I
propose setting the= default scroll amount to 2, or maybe even 1. I
also find that th= e progressive scroll speed functionality contributes
to this "ner= vous" scroll feeling, and I propose turning that off by
default a= s well.

This will make scrolling Emacs behave more= similar to other
applications, and I think it will provide a mor= e pleasant scrolling
experience.

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