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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155382 Archived-At: > I'm not completely sure we want > to use "C-h o" for its binding, tho I don't see any obvious > reasons not to. Since Drew's describe-option uses o, the remaining lowercase options are juxyz. Of those, I vote for x. > But now we have the reverse problem that this goes beyond > the "tiny > change" limit, so we'd need you to sign some copyright > paperwork before > we can accept it. Would you be willing to do that? I disclaim copyright on it. It's in the public domain, except for whatever the FSF already has copyright on, which I think is most of it, since it's mostly copied from describe-function and describe-variable.