From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:55:50 +0100 Message-ID: <135420c2f94e0c4c6d3c7ffaee6faf00@swipnet.se> References: <016b01c51163$45e1d630$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <16186.217.194.34.123.1108368907.squirrel@wwws.franken.de> <4210762C.9030203@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108408816 2629 80.91.229.2 (14 Feb 2005 19:20:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 14 20:20:16 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0lkN-0006TT-6e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:19:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0lzx-000427-UU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:35:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D0lvJ-0002fi-9s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:30:22 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D0lv1-0002br-09 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:30:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0lv0-0002Rj-1L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:30:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.54.107.70] (helo=mxfep01.bredband.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D0lOA-0000tC-L6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:56:07 -0500 Original-Received: from coolsville.localdomain ([83.226.180.210] [83.226.180.210]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20050214185605.OXKT17717.mxfep01.bredband.com@coolsville.localdomain>; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:56:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: Original-To: Ralf Angeli X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33409 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33409 > * David Kastrup (2005-02-14) writes: > >> Miles Bader writes: >> >>> Hmmm; here's a simple example: >>> >>> (x-show-tip >>> (propertize "*** hello ***" >>> 'face '(variable-pitch :foreground "green" >>> :background "steelblue" >>> :height 3.0))) >> >> I have not been using x-show-tip directly ever but merely help-echo >> properties, but that should make no difference. > > I just saw those tooltips the first time in my life by enabling > tooltip-mode and hovering with the mouse pointer over some menus > generated by AUCTeX. If one is used to native GTK tooltips, the ones > generated by Emacs look really awkward. Care to elaborate? The main difference is that GTK tool tips always seems to appear below a tool bar button, where as Emacs tool tips are some distance from the pointer. The color and font also differs, but that can be customized. Maybe we can make tool tips appear under the button if it is for a tool bar button. Would that be better? The problem with the font is that Emacs doesn't support anti aliased fonts (yet), but GTK uses them all over, even in tool tips. Jan D.