From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Status of trunk Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:53:19 -0700 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <13447.1406091199@olgas.newt.com> References: <87tx68lo4u.fsf@olgas.newt.com> <8ofvhs7kkg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406091221 18772 80.91.229.3 (23 Jul 2014 04:53:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 04:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 06:53:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X9oYY-0006WZ-QZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 06:53:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42968 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X9oYX-0006HT-Th for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 00:53:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46786) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X9oYQ-0006GX-Ia for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 00:53:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X9oYL-0005Z3-L2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 00:53:26 -0400 Original-Received: from tassie.newt.com ([66.135.33.59]:54550) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X9oYL-0005Yz-Fh; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 00:53:21 -0400 Original-Received: from olgas.newt.com (c-24-6-53-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.53.16]) by tassie.newt.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7EB18680AA9; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by olgas.newt.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7A6C5AE12E; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:53:19 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: <8ofvhs7kkg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Comments: In-reply-to Glenn Morris message dated "Wed, 23 Jul 2014 00:42:07 -0400." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.5+bzr; nmh 1.6; GNU Emacs 24.4.50 X-Image-URL: http://www.newt.com/wohler/images/bill-diving.png Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-ID: <13446.1406091199.1@olgas.newt.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 66.135.33.59 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173086 Archived-At: Glenn Morris wrote: > Bill Wohler wrote: > = > > I'm guessing that the current policy is that emacs-24 is used for 24.4 > > fixes, > = > Yes. > = > > which are later merged to trunk by Glenn, > = > (By anyone who feels like it, but often no-one seems to feel like it.) > = > > and that trunk is open for business. > = > Yes. > > > Also, we have a couple of MH-E bugs on SourceForge related to > > compatibility with new nmh releases (1.5 and more recently 1.6). Would > > these qualify for checking in on the emacs-24 branch? > = > Not up to me, but showing the diff (it is not huge) would help to answer= that. > = > Technically speaking, no; ref: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-05/msg00309.html > = > but if the changes are simple, probably yes. (But again, not up to me.) Thanks, Glenn! In that case, perhaps checking changes into trunk, submitting the patch for review, and merging it into emacs-24 if accepted (so you don't need to get involved :-) might be a good policy in the short term. Would you agree? > > Are we still targeting a winter release? > = > Ha. There is no "target" AFAIK. > = > (Some people expressed a desire for more frequent releases, and I think > the phrase "every 6 months" was mentioned. The 24.4 feature freeze began > 7 months ago... > = > There's no visible progress with any of the outstanding important bugs, > and no-one doing any serious documentation improvements. > Bug reports show that many people are using trunk rather than emacs-24. > = > So in summary I don't know when the release will be. > I hope it is a bit sooner than winter.) -- = Bill Wohler aka http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD