From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thomas Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: CFP Re: Google Drive Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 18:13:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1335921198.2966.40.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> References: <337BF2A1-085D-4CA0-A8FB-A18C321F17BB@mit.edu> <1335892465.2966.5.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335921208 6243 80.91.229.3 (2 May 2012 01:13:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 01:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 02 03:13:27 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SPO8F-0006Qt-6Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 May 2012 03:13:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38794 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SPO8E-0006cI-Cr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 May 2012 21:13:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54953) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SPO8B-0006bo-84 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 May 2012 21:13:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SPO89-0006cR-Af for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 May 2012 21:13:22 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp201.dfw.emailsrvr.com ([67.192.241.201]:47495) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SPO89-0006cE-5U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 May 2012 21:13:21 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp10.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 452B31B80FB; Tue, 1 May 2012 21:13:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Original-Received: by smtp10.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: lord-AT-emf.net) with ESMTPSA id CEA1D1B8179; Tue, 1 May 2012 21:13:18 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 67.192.241.201 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150202 Archived-At: Is there anyone convenient to the East Bay of (SF Bay Area) who would like to work on this with me? There's no need for a first "product" offering to start with something as fancy and speculative as SUNDR. We can start with off-the-shelf parts, conveniently configured, I think. I think it's OK for users to trust their storage provider so long as the provider respects the users' freedoms well enough to merit that trust. (Since this message suggests a new and separate project, branching off from an Emacs issue, it is probably best for those inclined to reply to reply off-list.) -t On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 10:48 -0700, chad wrote: > On May 1, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Thomas Lord wrote: > > > Are there any free software packages that > > provide functionality like DropBox or GoogleDrive? > > Are there any companies that sell the utility > > service of hosting that software, with > > freedom-respecting terms of service and security > > features such as optional encryption of stored > > data? > > I know some people at MIT were working on such a thing, based on SUNDR (paper attached), but I'm far enough out of touch that I couldn't tell you if it was going to go anywhere. That group is pro-free-software, but when I last heard, they were primarily concerned with the (frankly terrible) security implications of DropBox, Box.net, MS SkyDrive, et al. > > *Chad > >