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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220747 Archived-At: On 12/5/17 7:57 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I posted a more or less complete proposal for how to make the changes you want without breaking previous facilities. If you agree with that proposal (which IMO makes sense even for master), then most of the issues you raise disappear. If you disagree, please respond to that message of mine explaining why, and let's discuss that first. Sorry, is it this message? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2017-12/msg00158.html I thought I've addresses every point in there (that I could make sense of) in other messages in this thread, but if you prefer, I can respond to it directly, to put the critique in one place. Have you read the following messages, BTW? There were no responses. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2017-12/msg00169.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2017-12/msg00170.html