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From: "Alfred M\. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Recognize mbox files?
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:16:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1234426596.076271.2586.nullmailer@beryx.hq.kred> (raw)
In-Reply-To: message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:15:56 -0500

   >> >> Otherwise, Rmail will have to be considered risky for use by mail
   >> >> admins.
   >> > Heh, what it does nowadays is nothing compared with what it did before
   >> > the mbox merge: it would convert the file to Babyl!  How's that for
   >> > ``risky''?
   >> 
   >> But *when* did it do it?  Would it do it, just by C-x C-f <somemboxfile> RET?

   > The conversion happened when you turned on rmail-mode.  If C-x C-f did
   > that automatically, the conversion happened automatically just by
   > typing C-x C-f.

   But could C-x C-f do that "by accident"?  Anyway, even if it could, we
   want to be more careful now.  I think the idea of checking the presence
   of RMAIL tags before allowing to modify the buffer is a good plan.

There seems to be confusion about how rmail work(s/ed).

A RMAIL/BABYL file contains a header that specifies the mode of the
file, so when you open such files (C-x C-f), you will get the file in
rmail-mode.

If you opened a random mbox file, no conversion occurs. 

If you type M-x rmail, rmail will read the mail spool, and save the
content to ~/RMAIL, converting the result to BABYL.

When a buffer was converted to BABYL, the file was never saved
automatically.  This was, I found anyway, useful for looking at mbox
files where you could then just use rmail to navigate th file,
disgarding the conversion later.

rmail would _never_ convert a file to BABYL unless the user explicitly
commanded emacs to do so, by invoking M-x rmail, or C-u M-x rmail.


Infact, a solution to the whole problem is simple.  Upon adding
headers, add the following header to the first message:

X-RMAIL-MODE: -*- rmail -*-

The file will then be handled by Emacs correctly, when the user does a
C-x C-f.




             reply	other threads:[~2009-02-12  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-12  8:16 Alfred M. Szmidt [this message]
2009-02-13  6:33 ` Recognize mbox files? Richard M Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-02-18 16:57 Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-02-17 23:55 Xavier Maillard
2009-02-17 23:55 Xavier Maillard
2009-02-17 15:27 Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-02-17 16:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-18  3:27   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-02-18  3:39     ` Miles Bader
2009-02-18  4:18       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-02-18 12:10       ` Richard M Stallman
2009-02-18 12:09   ` Richard M Stallman
2009-02-17 13:10 Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-02-17 14:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-02-18 12:10 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-02-16 16:12 Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-02-17 12:13 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-02-14 21:52 Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-02-14 21:25 Xavier Maillard
2009-02-14 22:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-16 15:40 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-02-14 21:25 Xavier Maillard
2009-02-13  8:25 Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-02-12  7:45 Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-02-10  7:36 Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-02-09 18:38 Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-02-10  1:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-10  9:36   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-10 20:02 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-02-11  0:34   ` Chetan Pandya
2009-02-11 20:58     ` Richard M Stallman
2009-02-11  4:51   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-02-11 20:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-12  1:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-12  4:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-12  5:15           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-12  2:40       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-02-11 20:59     ` Richard M Stallman
2009-02-09  5:31 Richard M Stallman
2009-02-09 18:17 ` Chong Yidong
2009-02-09 19:09   ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-02-09 21:26   ` Reiner Steib
2009-02-09 22:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-09 22:35       ` Reiner Steib
2009-02-10  8:34         ` Eli Zaretskii

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