From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs] Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 21:03:40 +0300 Message-ID: <12334adc-356c-2504-4e09-779b92690c63@yandex.ru> References: <35DBF02E-44D7-41E5-A217-7D6EC84ED221@icloud.com> <83d07984ux.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2pxcb85.fsf@russet.org.uk> <831rnp82rv.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="72799"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 Cc: rms@gnu.org, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, Emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pcr910303@icloud.com To: Eli Zaretskii , Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 12 20:05:41 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYZHh-000IqA-4l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 20:05:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34188 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYZHg-0000SJ-4j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 14:05:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36368) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYZFs-00084r-N4 for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 14:03:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x42b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::42b]:44878) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYZFr-0005L3-2O; Tue, 12 May 2020 14:03:48 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x42b.google.com with SMTP id 50so16225320wrc.11; Tue, 12 May 2020 11:03:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sHVIdtVqd0JGvDsofDKS4dyzwGpWEdUY9IsohUy1Pug=; b=jrK3PeFXertz+13s+a8tg6ED/D4zxoAtD+3QuFSfs91N7bmVBTfOnt8UVpVXrQLDtH SFJhLXk39Ie5nLKjNXXPh8vBautOR523ZpEKpQXSQRrqhWDgqkLkljJ48b9lJW15/4pA R5xuyj0mWTiD1mwCjk/yk6LuAwU/NnYKNv5MdF9ragXmfa4hAV/qJiA7Op+J2O1X+4BF Iew/BPzNXSNzTY0oIuk2A6N06S0232Hm0OdiYb/QyZp6wZY+LeDY/hjlfB/grUSM8ase JaMreBfQAnWID5mKGtXU/FTN/igz8cGvX6BMwbRV6fGk81R+7s+0KVDFlwxlDrnzYA1+ 9P1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sHVIdtVqd0JGvDsofDKS4dyzwGpWEdUY9IsohUy1Pug=; b=H1mFO50/o+gFRl/3rU3PB9/rEThEffhg2o1wUtBOd6qKhGY0SvmJcpOCtdG2piXwMJ KjavMj+6N1UYgwxCzt2E3AI1CdYejtVaSzkiWp7X+oOErYNPwfwD1daacy3g4943fRR1 tZK+HFo2aIFx2NQ7+OI2un7jhcvxtwdLCwp6nbAkXH9bg2DNUrlRI6ueA3bQpuKYT7Ip 16CTwH8eg4INKC5vGbrgQh5RakOqukEG/xOBknkdCFbjwayZzZtISYLA9hapy1HjCVf8 XRMlJLY2U6d7ddoL2ngES5Fc3JXPA4yNhvcllbzu23rU+kwE96HvsIgqKq7hhgTqJdDz 0nqg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYt0DHaQxKZs9a48AXvsDce21Q83kF1gZpOKibZaAbRozI5a5yK vrKc582/PXJIf70E7XnSVqo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKq7xGV2dr8lZos8iPXyJ3jHmTgavISJttdQjfB7Mk6fwcaowdgBRevniZKgthAu8EYhvM14g== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:5228:: with SMTP id i8mr26713638wra.359.1589306622789; Tue, 12 May 2020 11:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.3] ([66.205.73.129]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g6sm23878768wrw.34.2020.05.12.11.03.40 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 May 2020 11:03:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <831rnp82rv.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42b; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42b.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250009 Archived-At: On 12.05.2020 20:46, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Is this what you think of how I'm doing my job for Emacs? All I'm > doing here, most of the time, is make sure the code we get from > various contributions is up to our standards. Standards etched in stone many moons ago. > You seem to be saying > that I'm harming the project by doing so, because that drives the > contributors away. Would you like me to step down? Could we perhaps discuss these things without blackmail? The problems are real, and you have the power to make them better.