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From: "Paul W. Rankin" via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 'M-o' ('facemap-keymap') has now been removed until March 10th 2021
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 22:35:01 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <122434BB-0FDA-459F-BBDB-1C01E7967CFA@bydasein.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8786a8e8fa911a5c9ef3@heytings.org>



> On 24 Mar 2021, at 10:12 pm, Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>>> Does it?  AFAICS, font-lock-unfontify-region does not "remove _all_ text properties", it uses remove-list-of-text-properties, which "removes _some_ properties from text", namely those of font-lock-mode.
>> 
>> Sure, you're right that it does not remove *all* text properties per se. It removes, let's say, "all that it can" which is more than "all that is intended".
>> 
> 
> Please provide a recipe to demonstrate when this actually matters.

Programs should do what they're intended to.

>>> It allows you to toggle font-lock-mode correctly, which M-x font-lock-mode can't do.  Try the following: emacs -Q, unless, M-., M-h, M-w, C-x b RET, M-x text-mode, C-y, M-x font-lock-mode.
>> 
>> This is again correct behaviour.  When you yank the defun from an emacs-lisp-mode buffer into a text-mode buffer, you're inserting text with (most of) its text properties, except for the property `(fontified . t)' because within the context of *this* buffer, the text properties have not been applied with font-lock-mode and so this would be false and prevent font-lock from doing its work.
>> 
> 
> This is not the problem here.  The problem is that M-x font-lock-mode (last part of the recipe) is supposed to turn font-lock-mode off, yet the font-lock-mode fontification remains.

I have quite fully explained how that is not the case as per your examples. The "font-lock-mode fontification" does not remain, only text properties that are not added by font-lock remain, and as such why should turning off font-lock remove these? As previously noted, you are confusing text properties and font-lock. Font-lock is only one method to manipulate text properties.

Please read the Elisp Info manual chapters on Font Lock and Text Properties.




  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-24 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-23 21:38 'M-o' ('facemap-keymap') has now been removed until March 10th 2021 Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-23 22:07 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-23 23:08   ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-23 23:13     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-24  5:40       ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-24  8:01         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-24  9:09           ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-24  9:20             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-24  9:33               ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-24  9:44                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-24 12:00                   ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-24 12:12                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-24 12:35                       ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2021-03-24 13:01                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-24 13:09                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-24 13:30                   ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-24 15:14                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-24 15:38                       ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-24 15:40                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-24 15:53                           ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-24 21:47                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-24 17:09             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-24 21:58               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-25  6:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-25 14:03                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-24 13:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-24 13:41     ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-24 13:53       ` Gregory Heytings
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-02-10 18:40 Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-10 19:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-10 19:19   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-10 19:38     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-10 19:47       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-11 13:34 ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-11 16:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-11 16:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-11 17:02     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-11 17:29       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-12 12:09       ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-03-12 12:46         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-11 17:37   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-11 18:25   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-17 16:32   ` Sean Whitton
2021-03-18  3:43     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-18  4:35       ` Sean Whitton
2021-03-18  4:40         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-18  4:16   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-18  9:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-18 10:27       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-19  7:46         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-19  8:06           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-19  9:35             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-19 12:01               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-20  7:58             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-20  8:39               ` Andreas Schwab
2021-03-20  8:45                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-20  8:58                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-20  9:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-18 13:28       ` Jean Louis
2021-03-18 14:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-18  9:45     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-18 13:25     ` Jean Louis
2021-03-18 23:03     ` Sean Whitton
2021-03-19 13:14     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-20  7:54       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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