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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: font-lock-syntactic-keywords obsolet?
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 18:50:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11c988f0-94c0-40dd-b9cd-5a5e27028b63@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160619153455.GG5875@acm.fritz.box>

On 06/19/2016 06:34 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

>> What's a "logical line"?
>
> What you get when you resolve the escaped new lines, or the non-escaped
> new lines inside a C++ raw string.

But when the raw string is unclosed, it stretches until the end of the 
buffer, doesn't it? Hence, the effects of adding or removing a closer 
must affect the buffer until its end.

> There's no reason to do so, and it would cost a lot of time.  The
> syntax-propertize-function stuff just isn't a good way of impelementing
> CC Mode.
>
> A critical reason, which I've told you before, is that on any buffer
> change, the syntax-propertize-function mechanism blasts all s-t
> properties out of existence from the point the change is made onwards.
> This is wasteful of run-time, given that these properties are quite
> expensive to apply.

They can't be too expensive, considering other language modes, which do 
use syntax-propertize-function, exhibit fewer performance problems than 
CC Mode, even at the same file sizes.

And if the automatic removal of syntax-table properties would lose 
important information, you could save them to a separate structure.

Anyway, you're welcome to propose an alternative general abstraction for 
the same kind of thing than syntax-propertize does. 
font-lock-syntactic-keyword is definitely not that.

>> Maybe you'll need to hand-implement the logic corresponding to
>> syntax-propertize-rules, but that's just work.
>
> In this context, both "just" and "work" are curse words.  :-)

"just implementation work", then. As opposed to "design and implementation".



  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-19 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 10:18 font-lock-syntactic-keywords obsolet? Andreas Röhler
2016-06-17 22:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-18  7:03   ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-18 15:07     ` Noam Postavsky
2016-06-18 17:12       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-18 18:13         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-18 19:41           ` Noam Postavsky
2016-06-19  7:12             ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-19 13:21               ` Noam Postavsky
2016-06-19 14:03                 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-19 14:36               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-19 15:12                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 15:18                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 15:26                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 15:52                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-19 15:53                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20  2:58                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20 11:57                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 13:37                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20 13:50                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 16:00                           ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-20 18:15                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 23:33                               ` John Wiegley
2016-06-20 18:55                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 20:22                               ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-19 15:27                 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-19 15:51                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-19 12:31         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 13:31           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 13:48             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 14:59               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 15:07                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 15:18                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 15:22                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 15:34                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 15:50                         ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2016-06-19 17:15                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 17:55                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 22:20                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 10:22                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 11:50                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 14:50                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 15:02                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 13:39                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20 10:58                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 11:12                                 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-20 12:15                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 14:52                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2016-06-20 15:57                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 17:23                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2016-06-20 18:58                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 15:25                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 16:45                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 18:12                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 19:15                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 20:08                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 20:32                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-21 14:40                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-21 21:06                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-21 23:50                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-23 16:30                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-27 11:48                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-29  0:30                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-30  9:52                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-07-10  2:01                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-10 22:11                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-07-11  0:06                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-11 17:20                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-07-11 22:44                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 22:45                                       ` John Wiegley
2016-06-20 23:30                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 23:56                                           ` John Wiegley
2016-06-21  0:26                                           ` John Wiegley
2016-06-21 15:26                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-21 16:09                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-21 18:34                                               ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-21 18:42                                                 ` John Wiegley
2016-06-21 18:52                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-27 11:50                                                     ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-21 19:23                                                   ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-21 18:49                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-21 21:05                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-21 21:17                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-21 16:28                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20  0:06                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20 11:03                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 13:53                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20  4:33                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20  5:05                               ` John Wiegley
2016-06-19 23:59                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20  3:14                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20  3:20                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20  3:47                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20  6:40                 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-20  3:08             ` Stefan Monnier

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