From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bdale Garbee Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Bug#221807: [debian-vrms] Bug#221807: "please take this into consideration" Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:41:46 -0600 Organization: Garbee and Garbee Message-ID: <1175740906.4178.72.camel@rover.gag.com> References: <87hcryfjkh.fsf@zip.com.au> <87hcrxe17d.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200704041938.11249.david@leals.com> Reply-To: Bdale Garbee , 221807@bugs.debian.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1175741201 21711 80.91.229.12 (5 Apr 2007 02:46:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 02:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 221807@bugs.debian.org, debian-vrms@lists.gag.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Johan =?UTF-8?Q?Bockg=C3=A5rd?= To: David Diaz Original-X-From: bounce-debian-bugs-dist=glddb-debian-bugs-dist=m.gmane.org@lists.debian.org Thu Apr 05 04:46:39 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: glddb-debian-bugs-dist@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from murphy.debian.org ([70.103.162.31]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HZHzj-0002AG-7Q for glddb-debian-bugs-dist@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 04:46:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id 817BF2DFC7; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 21:46:38 -0500 (CDT) Old-Return-Path: Original-Received: from rietz.debian.org (rietz.debian.org [140.211.166.43]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF2D2DF59; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 21:46:38 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from debbugs by rietz.debian.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1HZHvG-0005os-U8; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:42:02 +0000 X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Bdale Garbee Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-Cc: Debian vrms Maintainers Resent-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: X-Debian-PR-Message: report 221807 X-Debian-PR-Package: vrms X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Debian-PR-Source: vrms Original-Received: via spool by 221807-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B221807.117574083220933 (code B ref 221807); Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:42:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 221807) by bugs.debian.org; 5 Apr 2007 02:40:32 +0000 Original-Received: from winfree.gag.com ([192.133.104.8] ident=postfix) by rietz.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HZHto-0005Qn-Hd for 221807@bugs.debian.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:40:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by winfree.gag.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54E9305F; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:40:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at gag.com Original-Received: from winfree.gag.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (winfree.gag.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y61d1jsmP0Wb; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:40:30 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: from rover.gag.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by winfree.gag.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DCA3027; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:40:30 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: by rover.gag.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E47A058255; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:41:46 -0600 (MDT) In-Reply-To: <200704041938.11249.david@leals.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on rietz.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_10,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Resent-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:42:02 +0000 X-Rc-Virus: 2006-10-25_01 X-Rc-Spam: 2007-01-18_01 X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: debian-bugs-dist-request@lists.debian.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general:235083 gmane.emacs.devel:69076 Archived-At: On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 19:38 +0200, David Diaz wrote: > I personally think too if the package name is "Virtual RMS" it should abide > the RMS principles, just to avoid confusion to the package's users. I understand your point. I guess I just still hold out hope that the FSF may one day again publish documentation under a license that's compliant with the DFSG... > Note the comment in the vrms description package: ;-) Actually, I wrote that. Way back when, I'm the one who dreamed up the package, came up with the name, and wrote the man page. The motivation was a conversation a guy who used to work for me (Bill Geddes) was having with RMS about Debian non-free. Bill wrote the original Perl implementation of vrms. None of that is particularly important, except to assure you that I'm completely aware that vrms has never really fulfilled the original vision I/we had for it... Do you care about this enough to want to help work on vrms? Bdale