From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ken Brown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: disable automatic native-compilation? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:292044 Archived-At: On 7/10/2022 5:54 PM, Ken Brown wrote: > On 7/10/2022 2:32 PM, Lynn Winebarger wrote: >> I see a discussion under bug #50666 - >> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=50666 [ note - only >> found by google site search on lists.gnu.org for "Ken Brown" "cygwin" >> "native", the bug did not show up when I used debbugs's search for >> bugs for package "emacs" with "cygwin" in the subject ]. >> It seems to have focused on the 32-bit architecture, but I only use >> 64-bit targets. > > Native compilation is unusable on 32-bit Cygwin, and this is reflected in the > configure script.  (See the --with-cygwin32-native-compilation configure option.) > > In the 64-bit case, Achim Gratz's autorebase postinstall script takes care of > rebasing the .eln files on a regular basis, provided the user has set things up > appropriately.  Instructions can be found in the announcement at > >   https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-announce/2022-April/010529.html > > In the 3 months since I sent that announcement, I have not heard from a single > Cygwin user about rebase issues.  This might simply mean that very few users > have tried the native compilation release. > > I myself use that release daily, and I can only recall one instance in which I > saw a fork failure and had to exit emacs and rebase. > > In summary, I would say that native compilation is usable with very occasional > minor annoyances on 64-bit Cygwin.  But I doubt if I will ever make it the > default Cygwin build, simply because I don't want to be inundated with emails > from people who haven't read the release announcement. Lynn, Rereading your earlier message about problems during package installation, I see I didn't really respond to that. But it has nothing to do with the present bug, so please make a fresh bug report and give full details. And please follow the instructions in the announcement I cited. If you're working in your own build of Cygwin emacs that you haven't installed, you might also have to add its native-lisp directory to /var/lib/rebase/userpath.d/ Ken