From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M\. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bad mailer Subject meddling (was: links in Help buffer aren't always correct) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:47:45 +0100 Message-ID: <1134672465.994807.15816.nullmailer@Update.UU.SE> References: Reply-To: ams@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134679299 6460 80.91.229.2 (15 Dec 2005 20:41:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 15 21:41:36 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EmzsV-0002Bz-7i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:39:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Emzt9-0002k5-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:39:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Emy9h-0000y0-1i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:48:41 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Emy9e-0000x5-Vw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:48:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Emy9e-0000x2-Sa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:48:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [130.238.4.154] (helo=colibri.its.uu.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EmyBw-0006Bd-LN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:51:00 -0500 Original-Received: by colibri.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 211) id 561D1505; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:47:56 +0100 (NFT) Original-Received: from colibri.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by colibri.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s14351; Thu, 15 Dec 05 19:47:46 +0100 Original-Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by colibri.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFC033F; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:47:46 +0100 (NFT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC28D44003; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:47:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Psilocybe [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30149-02-23; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:47:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from Update.UU.SE (Lem.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.73]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DDCA44002; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:47:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 15817 invoked by uid 30270); Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:47:46 -0000 Original-To: Drew Adams In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47813 Archived-At: If it produces brain-dead subject lines, but it is a very common mailer, maybe Rmail's C-c C-n could somehow deal with it by adding extra intelligence to handle the retarded output ;-)? No flames please - I don't even know what C-c C-n does, C-c C-n moves to the next message with the same subject. What would be nice is if C-c C-n (and C-c C-p) would move thread-wise based on Message-ID, and then based on the subject. On a related subject: Unlike the posts to emacs-devel, bug reports get the original sender's email address (e.g. "[drew.adams@oracle.com]") prepended to the subject line, as in this one (but I removed that). That makes the subject much longer (m u c h longer, in some cases). Is that "feature" really necessary or a good idea? It happens when one forwards a message from rmail to someone (in this case, emacs-devel).