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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
Cc: Philipp Stephani <phst@google.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Change module interface to no longer use GMP objects directly.
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 13:24:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10cefdff-38ce-438b-881d-15d2fe816a8b@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAArVCkQzVAy6Lq3JCPw7Rbuxsy0VNe=iX8TKmcreKz_MzRyzhQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/20/19 1:06 PM, Philipp Stephani wrote:
> GMP seems to make a very complex series of choices when selecting the
> limb datatype, which we can't and shouldn't replicate.

We don't need to replicate GMP's reasoning. We can use a 'configure' 
time test to use whatever type GMP uses. The emacs-module header could 
be quite simple, and just use that type (typically unsigned long, but 
not always) when typedeffing emacs_limb_t. I'll write the configure-time 
code, so you don't need to worry about implementing it (not that it's 
hard to write).

> copy_string_contents
> returns false if and only if it has signaled an error, which is a
> quite useful invariant.

No, copy_string_contents never returns false. If it signals an error, it 
does not return. If it returns, it always returns true. It's pretty 
weird, but there it is.

>> I found the guarantee useful in the first function I wrote that
>> attempted to use the proposed API, so that's good evidence that it's
>> worth documenting.
> 
> I don't think so, it's a very narrow guarantee that we also don't give
> for other functions.

I don't think any of the other functions need such a guarantee (but if 
they do, we should provide it).

> Each guarantee, however minor, comes with a cost:
> we need to document it and stick to it forever.

This particular guarantee has so little cost that the cost is not worth 
worrying about. It's a guarantee we'll never want to violate and there's 
essentially no cost to sticking to it "forever". I'll write the 
one-sentence documentation, if that helps.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-20 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-23 13:17 [PATCH 1/2] Add conversions to and from struct timespec to module interface Philipp Stephani
2019-04-23 13:17 ` [PATCH 2/2] Add module functions to convert from and to big integers Philipp Stephani
2019-04-23 14:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 14:51   ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-23 15:12     ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-23 15:48       ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-23 15:54         ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-02 19:17           ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-03 19:38             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-13 18:46               ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-17 18:38                 ` [PATCH] Change module interface to no longer use GMP objects directly Philipp Stephani
2019-11-18 21:21                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-19 21:12                     ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-19 21:54                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-20 21:06                         ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-20 21:24                           ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2019-11-20 21:30                             ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-21  1:12                               ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-21 20:31                                 ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-23  2:13                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-23 20:08                                     ` Philipp Stephani
2019-11-23 23:10                                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-23 20:46                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-23 23:10                                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-24  9:28                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2019-11-25 21:03                                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-25 21:59                                             ` Philipp Stephani
2019-12-04 20:31                                               ` Philipp Stephani
2019-12-05 14:43                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-08 20:28                                                   ` Philipp Stephani
2019-12-09  3:26                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-09  4:58                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-12-09 13:22                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-09 23:15                                                       ` Philipp Stephani
2019-12-10  0:22                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2019-12-10 13:15                                                           ` Philipp Stephani
2019-12-10 15:57                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-14 16:06                                                             ` Philipp Stephani
2019-12-14 19:54                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2019-12-09  0:35                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-12-09 13:19                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 15:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] Add conversions to and from struct timespec to module interface Paul Eggert
2019-04-23 21:32   ` Philipp Stephani
     [not found]     ` <20190423213218.35618-2-phst@google.com>
2019-04-23 21:43       ` [PATCH 2/2] Add module functions to convert from and to big integers Paul Eggert
2019-04-24 16:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 16:37         ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 16:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 16:57           ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 17:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 17:15               ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 17:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 17:28                   ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 17:51                     ` [PATCH] Unbreak build when building without GMP support Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 18:41                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 18:49                         ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 19:06                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 19:19                             ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 19:30                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 21:15                                 ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25  6:04                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25  6:39                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 10:24                                       ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 21:34                       ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 19:44                     ` [PATCH 2/2] Add module functions to convert from and to big integers Stefan Monnier
2019-04-24 20:15                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-24 20:57                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-24 21:17                           ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 23:32                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-24 21:19                       ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25  0:00                         ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-25  5:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 10:41                             ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25 13:46                               ` [PATCH 1/2] Require full GMP when building module support Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25 13:46                                 ` [PATCH 2/2] Check for __attribute__ ((cleanup)) during configuration Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25 21:18                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-28 18:12                                     ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25 14:37                                 ` [PATCH 1/2] Require full GMP when building module support Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 15:06                                   ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25 16:14                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 17:09                                       ` [PATCH] Require full GMP for big integer module functions Philipp Stephani
2019-04-25 21:00                                         ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-28 18:14                                           ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-28 20:18                                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-28 17:10                                       ` [PATCH 1/2] Require full GMP when building module support Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24  7:21     ` [PATCH 1/2] Add conversions to and from struct timespec to module interface Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 11:03       ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-24 11:44         ` Eli Zaretskii

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