From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?b?Suly9G1l?= Marant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.] Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 16:49:27 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <1096642167.415d6e7709daf@imp1-q.free.fr> References: <1096291271.415813c757a26@imp6-q.free.fr> <20040927134714.GA20012@fencepost> <87hdphx91c.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <87655wswkv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <01c4a6f8$Blat.v2.2.2$f6ef61c0@zahav.net.il> <20040930143404.GB2296@fencepost> <01c4a703$Blat.v2.2.2$9a627220@zahav.net.il> <1096559619.415c2c031623c@imp4-q.free.fr> <01c4a707$Blat.v2.2.2$99a73ba0@zahav.net.il> <1096576951.415c6fb768430@imp3-q.free.fr> <1096615373.415d05cde9dfe@imp1-q.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1096642226 24409 80.91.229.6 (1 Oct 2004 14:50:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rlb@defaultvalue.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 01 16:50:06 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CDOjV-0005ru-00 for ; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:50:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CDOpw-0007ms-PA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:56:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CDOpq-0007mn-Of for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:56:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CDOpq-0007mb-Bs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:56:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CDOpq-0007mY-3k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:56:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [213.228.0.176] (helo=postfix4-2.free.fr) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CDOiu-0001zO-1u; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:49:28 -0400 Original-Received: from imp1-q.free.fr (imp1-q.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by postfix4-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325D91FE4B7; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 16:49:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by imp1-q.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 22E5E36F79; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 16:49:27 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from mure.msy.sagem.com (mure.msy.sagem.com [62.160.59.178]) by imp1-q.free.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 16:49:27 +0200 Original-To: Stefan In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 62.160.59.178 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27781 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27781 Quoting Stefan : > > Usually, by reading the list, you'll notice that we often forward bug > > reports and patches to the list. Sometimes we write patches ourselve= s for > > our users. > > Yes, I know that, but I have no idea what other patches you apply on th= e > Debian side. From what I've seen of your reports and patches here, I t= rust > you can do the job. "We", Rob and I. > >> In order for you not to be frustrated, I think the best option is to= take > it > >> slow: after all, the process already exists, and you're just offerin= g to > >> help out, so you can start by just systematically submitting the pat= ches > >> that you'd like to apply to Debian's tree (so they get installed in = RC), > >> then regularly bug people to remind them that we should get the next > pretest > >> started, ... > > > Ok, I see. You are worried about giving CVS access to people with a > > too low level of trust. > > I didn't say anything about CVS access. I actually assume you'd get CV= S > access since I can't see how you could reasonably do the job without > CVS access. Maybe it could be done, strictly speaking, but I can't see= how > anyone could accept to do such a job without getting CVS access. > > > Well, no matter. The less I do, the more you have to. Maybe will you > > manage to prove that it's not worth it because it requires too much > > manpower from emacs-devel. > > I think you misread me. I won't try to slow you down and I hope nobody= here > will try to either: I was just recommending to you that you take it slo= w > for your own sake (so that if we turn out to be unbearable tyrants for = you, > you won't feel too bitter). Sorry, I probably misread you. It's good to start the discussion early in order to come to agreements on every single detail, before doing anything. Cheers, -- J=E9r=F4me Marant