From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?b?Suly9G1l?= Marant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Glitches with the GTK toolkit Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:55:12 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <1084449312.40a362208ae14@imp6-q.free.fr> References: <1084262636.40a088ec37014@imp4-q.free.fr> <1084300258.40a11be25a438@imp3-q.free.fr> <87isf27kxl.fsf@marant.org> <1084361643.40a20bab4f25d@imp3-q.free.fr> <87brkt9wwr.fsf@marant.org> <20040512223201.GB30731@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084455886 2670 80.91.224.253 (13 May 2004 13:44:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Jan D." , "Kim F. Storm" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu May 13 15:44:34 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BOGVl-0006CK-00 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 15:44:33 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BOGVf-0005rr-00 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 15:44:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BOGU9-0003M5-2d for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 09:42:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BOFmy-0002ns-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 08:58:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BOF4i-00044I-7g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 08:13:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [213.228.0.62] (helo=postfix4-1.free.fr) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BOEny-0001u6-Qa; Thu, 13 May 2004 07:55:15 -0400 Original-Received: from imp6-q.free.fr (imp6-q.free.fr [212.27.42.6]) by postfix4-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA7510C5C4; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:55:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by imp6-q.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id A23201BA93; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:55:12 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from mure.msy.sagem.com (mure.msy.sagem.com [62.160.59.178]) by imp6-q.free.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:55:12 +0200 Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: <20040512223201.GB30731@fencepost> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23317 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23317 Quoting Miles Bader : > On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 11:07:48PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote: > > Gosh, I've never suspected that the toolbar was implemented as a fram= e. > > Why so? It sounds a strange idea to me. >=20 > It's not, but the (non-GTK) toolbar is implemented using the emacs disp= lay > engine which has aforementioned restriction in many places. IIRC, it's= more > like a funny sort of window than a frame (not exactly that either thoug= h -- > e.g., I don't think it shows up in the window tree). I still think using the Emacs display engine for that purpose is strange. Why not implementing a toolbar the XEmacs way? --=20 J=E9r=F4me Marant