From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Anderson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Fwd: [arch-users] Re: Gud lord!] Date: 10 Jun 2003 07:54:42 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <1055256888.1387.64.camel@lan1> References: <20030610090750.9112.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> <20030610125929.GA15864@gnu.org> <20030610160057.9115.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055257423 3272 80.91.224.249 (10 Jun 2003 15:03:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 10 17:03:40 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Pkaw-0000Yw-00 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:59:30 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19PkvU-0004u4-00 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:20:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Pkax-0002lS-Ps for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:59:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19PkUA-0000q9-Fy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:52:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19PkS3-0008Vc-Ov for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:50:20 -0400 Original-Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net ([207.115.63.101]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19PkNe-0007yK-Ni for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:45:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] (adsl-64-163-139-137.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.139.137])h5AEji3T106718; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:45:45 -0400 Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-Reply-To: <20030610160057.9115.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14999 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14999 On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 07:05, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:59:29 -0400 > Miles Bader wrote: > > > Arch has an appealingly tool-oriented approach, and uses > > `understandable' data representations, unlike subversion which seems to be > > more of a `big binary blob' design... > > I'm not arguing for or against any such tool now, but the "big binary > blob" is not a problem per se, if well documented. While I agree with Miles, the really weighty pragmatic arguments don't have anything do with design, IMO, but rather functionality. > > > I did find an interesting thread on arch on the OpenBSD mailing list, BTW, > > where Tom Lord does a pretty good job of answering some skeptical questions; > > a google search should turn it up... > > There was a long thread about arch on the GCC list months ago, and Tom > Lord did talk at length about arch's strengths and weaknesses. > > > Juanma The gulf between the two systems can be characterized with one word: distribution. That's not all, of course, but it's enough, and a gap that is, IMO, _very_ unlikely to be closed in a time frame of a few years, if ever. Bob