From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephan Stahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Idea for compilation mode Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 18:49:10 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <1054918150.3ee0c606c5a7f@webmail.isogmbh.de> References: <1054626136.3edc5158c76a4@webmail.isogmbh.de> <1054722433.3eddc981f3a4d@webmail.isogmbh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054920111 16674 80.91.224.249 (6 Jun 2003 17:21:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 17:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 06 19:21:44 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19OKtW-0004G0-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 19:20:50 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19OLCA-0003Cb-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 19:40:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OKnq-0005wv-30 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:14:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19OKf3-0002yl-Fv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:05:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19OKPV-0005Yn-2Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:49:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.isogmbh.de ([194.139.105.20] helo=ns2.isogmbh.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OKOw-0005VZ-2J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 12114 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2003 16:49:11 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (192.168.81.20) by mail.dmz.isogmbh.de with SMTP; 6 Jun 2003 16:49:11 -0000 Original-Received: from cleopatra.dmz.isogmbh.de (cleopatra.dmz.isogmbh.de [192.168.81.14]) by webmail.isogmbh.de (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 18:49:10 +0200 Original-To: "dak@gnu.org" , David Kastrup In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 Original-cc: "rms@gnu.org" Original-cc: Miles Bader Original-cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14842 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14842 David Kastrup wrote: > Stephan Stahl writes: > > C-] is not ESC, but GS. C-[ is ESC, and pressing both ctrl and altGr > is quite possible on a German keyboard. You are right with both. My fingers just hit the wrong key i meant C-[. But it is not enough that you can press ctrl and altGr together. As Juanma Barranquero pointed out it has to be in a particular order so that C-[ works. Remember [ is produced by AltGr-9 so for C-[ on a german keyboard one would have to press rightCtrl-AltGr-9. Not matter what other say i find it almost impossible to do. > > At least i never found a keyboard / operating system where > > it is possible. Besides it would be very hard to hit all three keys > > at once. > > Why would you need to do that? First you press the modifiers, then > you press the key itself. Well not exactly at once but together. (I should speak and read more englisch to avoid those anoying mistakes which just confuse others :-). I think it is very hard to press rightCtrl-AltGr-9 together to get C-[. But that was just a example see my other mail for more. -- Stephan Stahl