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[18.26.2.123]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 67sm5528170ioy.32.2018.02.26.07.20.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Feb 2018 07:20:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223056 Archived-At: On 2018-02-26 08:11, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> This is not supposed to work: your test.el uses `mmm` before it gets >>> defined by the subsequent `load`. >> Uh, really? But the body of with-eval-after-load is (supposed to be) >> evaluated after the FILE argument is loaded, not before, right? `mmm' >> is only used in `with-eval-after-load' in the code above. > > The time of evaluation doesn't matter. Think of the case where we > *compile* the file. Why is that relevant here, given that I'm *not* compiling the file? (FWIW, I do indeed expect with-eval-after-load to protect its argument from compilation, yes. Is it documented not to?)