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From: Colin Walters <walters@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: new text property
Date: 10 Jun 2002 02:53:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1023692013.1593.1404.camel@space-ghost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bsajy6y8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 02:38, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

> What I do know is that font-lock itself has a minimum of five
> implementations (font-lock, font-lock-cache, lazy-lock, lazy-shot, and
> jit-lock). 

Those are all ways of dynamically searching for text and placing `face'
properties on them.  That's a very different approach from the way
`font-lock-face' is used.

Really, `font-lock-face' has nothing to do with what people
traditionally think of as "Font Lock" (i.e. regexps, searching), except
that it happens to be toggled on and off when the user types M-x
font-lock-mode.  The amount of code dealing with `font-lock-face' in
font-core.el amounts to about 8 lines.

> Primitive highlighting has at least three interfaces
> (overlays, text properties, extents).  This looks like an area ripe
> for consolidation, not proliferation, of APIs to me.

Yes, but adding `char-property-alias-alist' will not really increase the
difference between interfaces.  XEmacs appears to already have
`default-text-properties', which is similar.

> I also don't like the idea that semantics apparently depend on whether
> a reference is an "original" or an "alias".

They don't.

> Thus the warning.  This may be the right thing to do, but I want to
> make sure that XEmacs people _discuss_ this change rather than simply
> adopt it for the sake of compatibility.

I understand that.  But could you please study `font-lock-face' a little
bit more carefully?  The points you have raised so far don't really
apply to it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-10  6:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-09  7:22 new text property Colin Walters
2002-06-10  4:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
     [not found] ` <87y9dnycw8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2002-06-10  5:12   ` Miles Bader
2002-06-10  5:46   ` Colin Walters
     [not found]   ` <buod6uzbtun.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp>
2002-06-10  6:38     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
     [not found]     ` <87bsajy6y8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2002-06-10  6:53       ` Colin Walters [this message]
2002-06-10 14:30       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]       ` <200206101431.g5AEV0G28267@rum.cs.yale.edu>
2002-06-10 17:35         ` Adrian Aichner
2002-06-11  5:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-11  8:24         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-06-10  8:50 ` Hrvoje Niksic
2002-06-10 11:16   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-06-10 12:07     ` Hrvoje Niksic
2002-06-10 12:26       ` Miles Bader
2002-06-10 13:32         ` Hrvoje Niksic
2002-06-10 14:28           ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-10 15:08           ` Kai Großjohann
2002-06-10 18:51           ` Colin Walters
     [not found]           ` <1023735066.26240.14.camel@space-ghost>
2002-06-11 11:40             ` Hrvoje Niksic
2002-06-11 19:47               ` Colin Walters
2002-06-11 20:40                 ` Hrvoje Niksic
2002-06-12  8:18                   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-06-12  9:05                     ` Miles Bader
2002-06-12  1:14                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
     [not found]                 ` <877kl5pabc.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2002-06-12  3:11                   ` Colin Walters
2002-06-12  8:16                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-06-12 17:46                       ` Adrian Aichner
2002-06-10 15:03       ` Kai Großjohann
     [not found]       ` <vaf1ybf18hp.fsf@INBOX.auto.emacs.devel.tok.lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
2002-06-10 15:13         ` Hrvoje Niksic

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