From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Colin Walters Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: kill ring menu Date: 03 May 2002 16:20:20 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <1020457220.31813.52.camel@space-ghost> References: <1020022891.27106.142.camel@space-ghost> <200204290505.g3T55t006146@aztec.santafe.edu> <1020059236.31789.358.camel@space-ghost> <200204300519.g3U5Js306727@aztec.santafe.edu> <1020212569.27106.2246.camel@space-ghost> <200205011926.g41JQBC07690@aztec.santafe.edu> <1020284783.27106.3417.camel@space-ghost> <200205031825.g43IPrt00762@aztec.santafe.edu> <87u1pp9hma.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020458009 17940 127.0.0.1 (3 May 2002 20:33:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 20:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 173jk9-0004fF-00 for ; Fri, 03 May 2002 22:33:29 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 173jq0-0002sI-00 for ; Fri, 03 May 2002 22:39:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 173jjk-0006D7-00; Fri, 03 May 2002 16:33:04 -0400 Original-Received: from monk.debian.net ([216.185.54.61] helo=monk.verbum.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 173jhI-00060X-00 for ; Fri, 03 May 2002 16:30:32 -0400 Original-Received: from space-ghost.verbum.private (freedom.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.60.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "space-ghost.verbum.org", Issuer "monk.verbum.org" (verified OK)) by monk.verbum.org (Postfix (Debian/GNU)) with ESMTP id 125EA7400252 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 16:30:32 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by space-ghost.verbum.private (Postfix (Debian/GNU), from userid 1000) id D8A60806DC8; Fri, 3 May 2002 16:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87u1pp9hma.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3553 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3553 On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 15:05, Miles Bader wrote: > I think it would be very easy to accidentally get the menu. You usually > use the M-y command in a series (to move through the kill-ring), and > it's not uncommon to mistype it if you're really using `ESC y' and > accidentally hit another key in between two M-ys. Getting the error > message in such a circumstance is a little annoying, but being popped > into a new buffer would drive me nuts. Well, you can just type 'q' in that case. I mean, it might take some getting used to, but for people new to Emacs I think it would be a big win. > That seems like too high a penalty for a common typo. Well, to me, what we should ask is whether or not the added functionality is worth the cost of that typo. Personally, I've more or less altogether stopped using M-y repeatedly to yank text. It requires holding down Meta, whereas just doing 'M-y n n n RET' is much nicer on my fingers. > It also just seems a little odd to have the radically different behavior > depending on whether it followed C-y or not, and it seems like it would > make M-y kind of hard to explain -- I still think of it as a separate > command, even if it's only really useful following C-y. True, but we're rather stuck with the keybindings at this point. > So, I'm against putting this mode on M-y. That's too bad. Does anyone else like the idea?