From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Colin Walters Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: kill ring menu Date: 29 Apr 2002 01:37:32 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <1020058652.27106.353.camel@space-ghost> References: <1020022891.27106.142.camel@space-ghost> <87k7qr18k7.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <1020055064.28798.320.camel@space-ghost> <871yczksra.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020058965 11172 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2002 05:42:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 05:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 1723vx-0002u5-00 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:42:45 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1723zZ-0004Hs-00 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:46:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1723vX-0001kh-00; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:42:19 -0400 Original-Received: from monk.debian.net ([216.185.54.61] helo=monk.verbum.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1723tb-0001bd-00 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:40:19 -0400 Original-Received: from space-ghost.verbum.private (freedom.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.60.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "space-ghost.verbum.org", Issuer "monk.verbum.org" (verified OK)) by monk.verbum.org (Postfix (Debian/GNU)) with ESMTP id 88E4A7400252 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by space-ghost.verbum.private (Postfix (Debian/GNU), from userid 1000) id 1EA28835E0E; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:37:33 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <871yczksra.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3386 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3386 On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 00:56, Miles Bader wrote: > Colin Walters writes: > > Thanks for your comments. I have incorporated the changes (including > > renaming it back to `browse-kill-ring') in the latest patch. > > Please don't append `-face' to the name of the face, though -- faces > have a separate namespace, so it's quite redundant (it's like appending > `-variable' to the name of all your variables); note that none of emacs' > `primitive' faces (those in faces.el) use the `-face' suffix. Fixed, thanks. I take it with these comments that you are satisfied with the rest of the patch? > [...] Since in general one can't be sure which > people are on a mailing list or not, it's best to reply to all addresses > by default [...] I don't really wish to debate this in depth, since I sense this has the potential to develop into a long thread, where I will certainly be CC'd :) ...so this will be the last thing I'll say about it on this list. In Debian culture (where I mainly come from), the general opinion on the issue is against it. The CC is another separate identical copy of the message, which goes straight to my inbox. When CC'ing, you are making an assumption that I filter my mail into separate mailboxes, and that I don't read those lists constantly. If that isn't true, then I have to spend time deleting lots of duplicate messages. Or I have to set up a complex email filtering system, which also takes my time and is difficult to manage. A more reasonable assumption to make is that someone who posts to a list is subscribed to it. Almost all of us who participate in regular discussion are subscribed, I'm sure. If someone posts who *isn't* subscribed, then the onus is on *them* to say "Please CC me". That way everyone else doesn't suffer just because a few lazy people occasionally post to the list without being subscribed outside. >From what I see GNU culture generally is in support of CC'ing. If I can't change this, then I just hope that a polite request at the top of my messages will at least prevent me personally from being CC'd. And again, it's just a request; nobody has to listen to it. But doing so will make my life easier.