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From: Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org>
Subject: Re: Question about copy-region-as-kill
Date: 09 Apr 2002 18:12:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1018390326.900.10.camel@space-ghost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200204091207.g39C7m420376@aztec.santafe.edu>

On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 08:07, Richard Stallman wrote:
>     If we had extents like mechanism as the underlying implementation of
>     both text properties and overlays, then I could fall back to just using
>     the raw extents interface to solve my problem.
> 
> That would be indistinguishable in practice form using overlays for
> everything.  It would not be terribly hard to do this, but if indeed
> overlays are slower, then this will make everything that now uses text
> properties slower.

This seems to me to be an implementation issue.  Redisplay is far
outside my area of knowledge, but since XEmacs seems to be "fast enough"
at font-locking, I think this suggests that it doesn't have to be slow.

> Are overlays actually slower, for something like font-lock?
> I don't know.

My subjective feeling is that Emacs overlays are currently substantially
slower than Emacs text properties, yes.  But it would be hard to make an
objective comparison without rewriting font-lock entirely...

> I don't think overlays (whether you call them "extents" or not)
> are lying behind text properties.

The XEmacs manual claims that their text properties are implemented in
terms of extents:

"Text properties are an alternative interface to extents (*note
Extents::), and are built on top of them."

I don't want to actually look at the source, because I would like to
help in the implementation of extents (or the extension of overlays,
however you want to look at it) for Emacs.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-09 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-03 23:23 Question about copy-region-as-kill John Wiegley
2002-04-05  6:02 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-05 21:39   ` John Wiegley
2002-04-06  7:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-06  8:21       ` John Wiegley
2002-04-06 10:29         ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-04-06 17:46           ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-06 18:05             ` Alex Schroeder
2002-04-07 18:50               ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-08  1:23                 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-06 18:30             ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-04-06 23:03               ` Alan Shutko
2002-04-07  7:42                 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-04-08 15:53                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-04-08 21:21                     ` John Wiegley
2002-04-09  9:31                       ` Kim F. Storm
2002-04-09 11:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-09 10:23                           ` Miles Bader
2002-04-09 13:05                             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-04-09 13:24                               ` Miles Bader
2002-04-09 14:42                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-10 14:24                           ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-10 14:24                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-10 16:27                           ` Kim F. Storm
2002-04-11 14:53                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-11 16:27                               ` Kim F. Storm
2002-04-12 19:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-12 10:36                               ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-04-09 15:26                       ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-04-09 21:28                         ` John Wiegley
2002-04-07  3:56               ` Tak Ota
2002-04-06 15:05         ` Andreas Schwab
2002-04-06 17:32     ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-06 20:38       ` John Wiegley
2002-04-06 23:03         ` Alex Schroeder
2002-04-07  0:12           ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  0:56             ` Miles Bader
2002-04-07  2:53               ` John Wiegley
2002-04-07  4:44                 ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  4:58                   ` Miles Bader
2002-04-07  5:32                     ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  6:53                       ` Miles Bader
2002-04-07  7:46                         ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  8:18                           ` Alex Schroeder
2002-04-07 12:20                           ` Miles Bader
2002-04-08  3:09                             ` Colin Walters
2002-04-08  6:18                               ` Miles Bader
2002-04-09 22:04                                 ` Colin Walters
2002-04-10 20:17                                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-09 12:07                               ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-09 22:12                                 ` Colin Walters [this message]
2002-04-07  6:36                   ` John Wiegley
2002-04-07  6:55                     ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07 23:42                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-08  3:14                     ` Colin Walters
2002-04-09 12:07                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-09 22:06                         ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  4:41               ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  4:58                 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-07  5:43                   ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07 10:52         ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-06 17:43     ` Kai Großjohann

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