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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: spacibba@aol.com, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>,
	andreyk.mad@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at,
	Gregory Heytings <ghe@sdf.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: select yank via completion
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 14:21:39 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ff3cdb6-e735-4eaa-86d9-7ab980b74431@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pn46sfd4.fsf@mail.linkov.net>

> >> So now a new patch let-binds (minibuffer-completing-file-name t)
> >> around completing-read to allow inserting SPC, problem solved:
> >
> > Please don't, since we're not actually completing file names.
> >
> > I agree with Drew that we should probably just get rid of the SPC
> > binding in minibuffer completions,
> 
> SPC can be an obstacle even in some completion styles
> where words are separated by SPC.

Please provide an example/recipe.

Completion candidates can contain SPC chars.

How candidates are displayed has (should have)
no bearing on what chars the candidates contain.

Candidate separation in *Completions* (for
example) is simply for visual/display purposes.
There should be no dependence of the display
code or the completion code on what chars are
used in candidates.

> The problem is that there is another self-inserting key that can be
> used for text editing: '?' is bound to minibuffer-completion-help.
> Maybe then the variable could be named e.g. minibuffer-self-insert?

`?', like `SPC', should be self-inserting during
completion.  There's zero problem doing that.
I've been doing it for years.

I use `M-?', not `?', for completion help In my
case it's `icicle-minibuffer-help', but vanilla
Emacs could just bind `minibuffer-completion-help'
to `M-?'.

Making users use `C-q SPC' each time they want
to insert a `SPC' char is ridiculous.  Likewise,
for `C-q ?' to insert a `?' char.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-21 22:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-12 17:42 on helm substantial differences Drew Adams
2020-11-13 21:16 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 11:49 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 20:07 ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-15 22:01   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-15 22:41     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-16  8:58     ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-16 16:03       ` Drew Adams
2020-11-16 17:36       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-16 20:38         ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-16 21:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-17 19:18         ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-17 20:32           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-18  9:10             ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-18 11:38               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-18 19:13                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-18 20:33                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-20  9:24                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-20 11:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-20 12:15                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-20 14:39                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-21 20:18                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-22  3:33                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  8:36                               ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-22 15:19                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 20:11                                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-23  3:24                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-25  9:10                                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-25 15:51                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-25 19:16                                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-25 19:59                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-25 20:35                                               ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-26 13:45                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-27  8:45                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-27  8:58                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-27  9:17                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-17 21:14           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-18  9:03             ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-18 19:21           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-18 22:04             ` select yank via completion Stefan Monnier
2020-11-18 23:02               ` Drew Adams
2020-11-19  7:54               ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-19 17:00                 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-20  8:53                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-20 11:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-21 19:38                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-21 19:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-21 20:43                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-20 14:23                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-21 19:42                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-21 21:08                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-21 22:21                         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-11-21 22:48                           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-21 23:00                           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-25 19:25                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-25 19:40                             ` Drew Adams
2020-11-21 21:54                       ` Drew Adams
2020-11-21 21:46                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-24 22:59                     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-25  7:36                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-25  8:14                         ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-25 20:24                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-26  8:46                             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-26  9:26                               ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-26  9:57                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-26 21:17                                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-27  7:13                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-27  9:01                                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-18 22:36             ` on helm substantial differences Drew Adams
2020-11-16 16:13   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 20:41     ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-16 21:18       ` Drew Adams
2020-11-16 22:13         ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-17  0:04           ` Drew Adams
2020-11-17  8:38             ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-17 16:56               ` Drew Adams
2020-11-17 12:06             ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2020-11-17 17:29               ` Drew Adams
2020-11-17 19:23               ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-17  3:24       ` Eli Zaretskii

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