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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::241 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220862 Archived-At: On 12/10/17 11:39 PM, John Wiegley wrote: >>>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: > > EZ> Forget all the messages. Forget the politics. There are only 2 questions > EZ> that need to be answered: Can you modify your branch such that it doesn't > EZ> remove prog-indentation-context, doesn't replace prog-widen with widen, > EZ> and leaves prog-first-column as a function? And if so, can the resulting > EZ> changeset allow reasonable MMM-style multi-mode support in Emacs? > > Thanks for the pointer to past discussions Dmitry, that's very helpful. Helpful for what? > In > this case, though, I'd like to second Eli and have us just move forward. "move forward" sounds nice, except here it means "keep whatever code we already have and hope for the best". Without, you know, any planned steps to perform that forward movement.