From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 a9c48d5: Additional fixes for file notification Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 14:19:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <0f8a6ce2-ce8c-443d-9cae-33bea5514851@default> References: <20160222175244.30186.2617@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <87k2lwv5ob.fsf@gmx.de> <87egc4v4hs.fsf@gmx.de> <8bd4ec21-1306-41bf-aca7-5571a3014337@default> <87r3g4js64.fsf@gmail.com> <2b98a5dd-7f46-4e92-9398-ede070c261de@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456784436 3377 80.91.229.3 (29 Feb 2016 22:20:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 22:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers , John Wiegley , Michael Albinus , Oleh Krehel , Kaushal Modi To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 29 23:20:23 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aaWAr-0000KZ-HM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 23:20:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39417 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aaWAq-0001y4-Io for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:20:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56643) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aaWAc-0001xh-1l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:20:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aaWAW-0006yY-VR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:20:01 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:47001) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aaWAW-0006yM-PW; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:19:56 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u1TMJrSb002262 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 29 Feb 2016 22:19:53 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1TMJrc7010306 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Feb 2016 22:19:53 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1TMJpp1004398; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 22:19:51 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200829 Archived-At: > In theory the criterion is something along the lies of "either it's > part of CommonLisp, or its implementation makes it belong to cl-lib". That would be reasonable. It's exactly what I argued for. Likewise wrt the prefix. It excludes things like `letf' that have nothing to do with CL. > But usually the real criterion is simple: the one who writes and > installs the patch gets to decide. That would be workable, assuming that such decisions are not cast in concrete when discovered to be mistaken. In the long run, theory & practice belong together and correct each other. What has been missing is the above "theory" as a guideline for such people. Bugs happen. Bugs can be fixed. The guideline above, like our coding conventions, can help decide what is a bug. > [ So for example Drew typically doesn't get to decide. ] Not a problem. I haven't tried to decide or asked to decide.