Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Dmitry Gutov]

Hi Emacs maintainers,

I'm prepared to get a "no" on this, but this is a somewhat interesting 
example.

Since the last of the two principal authors of mmm-mode has completed 
their copyright assignment, I've been bringing its copyright notices in 
order, to add it to ELPA.

There are two files, however, that I've missed in my previous evaluation.

1. mmm-rpm.el. It's ~20 lines, and you could consider its contents to be 
"configuration" instead of a program. Nevertheless, it's all been 
written by the same guy who never done copyright assignment, so it 
doesn't seem fair to write "Copyright by Free Software Foundation" on 
top of it.

2. mmm-noweb.el. It's much bigger, and reportedly still used by some 
people. Unfortunately, the author has passed away 7 years ago, so no 
real chance of copyright assignment.

They are not very essential (we could release one or both separately), 
but have them to be exceptions would make my life simpler.

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Stefan Monnier]

> 1. mmm-rpm.el. It's ~20 lines, and you could consider its contents to be
> "configuration" instead of a program. Nevertheless, it's all been written by
> the same guy who never done copyright assignment, so it doesn't seem fair to
> write "Copyright by Free Software Foundation" on top of it.

This can be counted as "trivial" enough not to require copyright
paperwork, indeed.

> 2. mmm-noweb.el. It's much bigger, and reportedly still used by some
> people. Unfortunately, the author has passed away 7 years ago, so no real
> chance of copyright assignment.
>
> They are not very essential (we could release one or both separately), but
> have them to be exceptions would make my life simpler.

I wouldn't mind making an exception for this one.


        Stefan

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Herring, Davis]

>> 2. mmm-noweb.el. It's much bigger, and reportedly still used by some
>> people. Unfortunately, the author has passed away 7 years ago, so no real
>> chance of copyright assignment.
> 
> I wouldn't mind making an exception for this one.

Don't we have to look to the heir of a deceased copyright holder?

Not-a-lawyer-ly-yours,
Davis

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Dmitry Gutov]

On 3/13/18 6:36 AM, Herring, Davis wrote:
>>> 2. mmm-noweb.el. It's much bigger, and reportedly still used by some
>>> people. Unfortunately, the author has passed away 7 years ago, so no real
>>> chance of copyright assignment.
>>
>> I wouldn't mind making an exception for this one.
> 
> Don't we have to look to the heir of a deceased copyright holder?

"Could try to" would seem like a more accurate statement.

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Richard Stallman]

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Would you please email me mmm-noweb.el?  I would like to see
it before thinking about whether it can be an exception.

    and reportedly still used by some 
    people.

Does this mean it is almost obsolete?

    They are not very essential (we could release one or both separately), 
    but have them to be exceptions would make my life simpler.

I don't think we should make copyright exceptions for files that
aren't really important to include.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
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Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Dmitry Gutov]

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On 3/14/18 12:17 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> 
> Would you please email me mmm-noweb.el?  I would like to see
> it before thinking about whether it can be an exception.

Please see the attachment.

>      and reportedly still used by some
>      people.
> 
> Does this mean it is almost obsolete?

I've had to deal with a couple of bug reports regarding mmm-noweb in 
2015, and resolved both more or less satisfactorily. So I'm guessing 
there are people who still use it, and it won't really be obsolete until 
Noweb goes away. I think it's still used at some universities.

>      They are not very essential (we could release one or both separately),
>      but have them to be exceptions would make my life simpler.
> 
> I don't think we should make copyright exceptions for files that
> aren't really important to include.
Releasing it separately is still an option, indeed.

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;;; mmm-noweb.el --- MMM submode class for Noweb programs
;;
;; Copyright 2003, 2004, 2018 Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us>
;;
;; The filling, completion and chunk motion commands either taken
;; directly from or inspired by code in:
;; noweb-mode.el - edit noweb files with GNU Emacs
;; Copyright 1995 by Thorsten.Ohl @ Physik.TH-Darmstadt.de
;;     with a little help from Norman Ramsey <norman@bellcore.com>
;;

;;{{{ GPL

;; This file is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
;; it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option)
;; any later version.

;; This file is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
;; but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
;; GNU General Public License for more details.

;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
;; along with GNU Emacs; see the file COPYING.  If not, write to
;; the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330,
;; Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA.

;;}}}

;;; Commentary:

;; This file contains the definition of an MMM Mode submode class for
;; editing Noweb programs.
;;
;; FIXME: The more advanced features don't work: `mmm-name-at' and
;; `mmm-syntax-region' are undefined. Need to dig around in the bug reports
;; and/or discussions, wherever the code using them was submitted.

;;; Code:

(require 'cl-lib)
(require 'mmm-region)
(require 'mmm-vars)
(require 'mmm-mode)

;;{{{ Variables

(defvar mmm-noweb-code-mode 'fundamental-mode
  "*Major mode for editing code chunks.
This is set to FUNDAMENTAL-MODE by default, but you might want to change
this in the Local Variables section of your file to something more
appropriate, like C-MODE, FORTRAN-MODE, or even INDENTED-TEXT-MODE.")

(defvar mmm-noweb-quote-mode nil
  "*Major mode for quoted code chunks within documentation chunks.
If nil, defaults to `mmm-noweb-code-mode', which see.")

(defvar mmm-noweb-quote-string "quote"
  "*String used to form quoted code submode region names.
See `mmm-noweb-quote'.")

(defvar mmm-noweb-quote-number 0
  "*Starting value appended to `mmm-noweb-quote-string'.
See `mmm-noweb-quote'.")

(defvar mmm-noweb-narrowing nil
  "*Narrow the region to the current pair of chunks.")

;;}}}
;;{{{ Support for mmm submode stuff

(defun mmm-noweb-chunk (form)
  "Return the noweb code mode chosen by the user.
If the next 100 characters of the buffer contain a string of the form
\"-*- MODE -*-\", then return MODE as the chosen mode, otherwise
return the value of `mmm-noweb-code-mode'."
  ;; Look for -*- mode -*- in the first two lines.
  ;; 120 chars = 40 chars for #! + 80 chars for following line...
  (if (re-search-forward "-\\*-\\s +\\(\\S-+\\)\\s +-\\*-" (+ (point) 120) t)
      (let* ((string (match-string-no-properties 1))
	     (modestr (intern (if (string-match "mode\\'" string)
				  string
				(concat string "-mode")))))
	(or (mmm-ensure-modename modestr)
	    mmm-noweb-code-mode))
    mmm-noweb-code-mode))

(defun mmm-noweb-quote (form)
  "Create a unique name for a quoted code region within a documentation chunk."
  (or mmm-noweb-quote-mode
      mmm-noweb-code-mode))

(defun mmm-noweb-quote-name (form)
  "Create a unique name for a quoted code region within a documentation chunk."
  (setq mmm-noweb-quote-number (1+ mmm-noweb-quote-number))
  (concat mmm-noweb-quote-string "-"
	  (number-to-string mmm-noweb-quote-number)))

(defun mmm-noweb-chunk-name (form)
  "Get the chunk name from FRONT-FORM."
  (string-match "<<\\(.*\\)>>=" form)
  (match-string-no-properties 1 form))

;;}}}
;;{{{ mmm noweb submode group

;; We assume that the global document mode is latex or whatever, the
;; user wants.  This class controls the code chunk submodes.  We use
;; match-submode to either return the value in mmm-noweb-code-mode or to
;; look at the first line of the chunk for a submode setting.  We reset
;; case-fold-search because chunk names are case sensitive.  The front
;; string identifies the chunk name between the <<>>.  Since this is
;; done, name-match can use the same functions as save-matches for back.
;; Our insert skeleton places a new code chunk and the skel-name lets us
;; optimize the skelton naming to use the inserted string.

(mmm-add-group
 'noweb
 '((noweb-chunk
    :match-submode mmm-noweb-chunk
    :case-fold-search nil
    :front "^<<\\(.*\\)>>="
    :match-name "~1"
    :save-name 1
    :front-offset (end-of-line 1)
    :back "^@\\( \\|$\\|\\( %def .*$\\)\\)"
    :insert ((?c noweb-code "Code Chunk Name: "
		"\n" @ "<<" str ">>=" @ "\n" _ "\n" @ "@ " @ "\n"))
    :skel-name t
    )
   (noweb-quote
    :match-submode mmm-noweb-quote
    :face mmm-special-submode-face
    :front "\\[\\["
;    :name-match mmm-noweb-quote-name
    :back "\\]\\]"
    :insert ((?q noweb-quote nil @ "[[" @ _ @ "]]" @))
    )
   ))

;;}}}
;;{{{ Noweb regions

(defun mmm-noweb-regions (start stop regexp &optional delim)
  "Return a liat of regions of the form \(NAME BEG END) that exclude
names which match REGEXP."
  (let* ((remove-next nil)
	 (regions
	  (cl-maplist (lambda (pos-list)
		       (if (cdr pos-list)
			   (if remove-next
			       (setq remove-next nil)
			     (let ((name (or (mmm-name-at (car pos-list) 'beg)
					     (symbol-name mmm-primary-mode))))
			       (if (and regexp (string-match regexp name) )
				   (progn
				     (setq remove-next t)
				     nil)
				 (list name
				       (car pos-list) (cadr pos-list)))))))
		   (mmm-submode-changes-in start stop))))
    ;; The above loop leaves lots of nils in the list...
    ;; Removing them saves us from having to do the (last x 2)
    ;; trick that mmm-regions-in does.
    (setq regions (delq nil regions))))

;;}}}
;;{{{ Filling, etc

(defun mmm-noweb-narrow-to-doc-chunk ()
  "Narrow to the current doc chunk.
The current chunk includes all quoted code chunks (i.e., \[\[...\]\]).
This function is only valid when called with point in a doc chunk or
quoted code chunk."
  (interactive)
  (let ((name (mmm-name-at (point))))
    (if (or (null name) (string-match "^quote" name))
	(let ((prev (cond
		     ((= (point) (point-min)) (point))
		     (t (cadar (last (mmm-noweb-regions (point-min) (point)
							"^quote"))))))
	      (next (cond
		     ((= (point) (point-max)) (point))
		     (t (save-excursion
			  (goto-char (cadr
				      (cadr (mmm-noweb-regions (point)
							       (point-max)
							       "^quote"))))
			  (forward-line -1)
			  (point))))))
	  (narrow-to-region prev next)))))

(defun mmm-noweb-fill-chunk (&optional justify)
  "Fill the current chunk according to mode.
Run `fill-region' on documentation chunks and `indent-region' on code
chunks."
  (interactive "P")
  (save-restriction
    (let ((name (mmm-name-at (point))))
      (if (and name (not (string-match "^quote" name)))
	  (if (or indent-region-function indent-line-function)
	      (progn
		(mmm-space-other-regions)
		(indent-region (overlay-start mmm-current-overlay)
			       (overlay-end mmm-current-overlay) nil))
	    (error "No indentation functions defined in %s!" major-mode))
	(progn
	  (mmm-word-other-regions)
	  (fill-paragraph justify)))
      (mmm-undo-syntax-other-regions))))

(defun mmm-noweb-fill-paragraph-chunk (&optional justify)
  "Fill a paragraph in the current chunk."
  (interactive "P")
  (save-restriction
    (let ((name (mmm-name-at (point))))
      (if (and name (not (string-match "^quote" name)))
	  (progn
	    (mmm-space-other-regions)
	    (fill-paragraph justify))
	(progn
	  (mmm-word-other-regions)
	  (fill-paragraph justify)))
      (mmm-undo-syntax-other-regions))))

(defun mmm-noweb-fill-named-chunk (&optional justify)
  "Fill the region containing the named chunk."
  (interactive "P")
  (save-restriction
    (let* ((name (or (mmm-name-at) (symbol-name mmm-primary-mode)))
	   (list (cdr (assoc name (mmm-names-alist (point-min) (point-max))))))
      (if (or (string= name (symbol-name mmm-primary-mode))
	      (string-match "^quote" name))
	  (progn
	    (mmm-word-other-regions)
	    (do-auto-fill))
	(progn
	  (mmm-space-other-regions)
	  (indent-region (caar list) (cadar (last list)) nil)))
      (mmm-undo-syntax-other-regions))))

(defun mmm-noweb-auto-fill-doc-chunk ()
  "Replacement for `do-auto-fill'."
  (save-restriction
    (mmm-noweb-narrow-to-doc-chunk)
    (mmm-word-other-regions)
    (do-auto-fill)
    (mmm-undo-syntax-other-regions)))

(defun mmm-noweb-auto-fill-doc-mode ()
  "Install the improved auto fill function, iff necessary."
  (if auto-fill-function
      (setq auto-fill-function 'mmm-noweb-auto-fill-doc-chunk)))

(defun mmm-noweb-auto-fill-code-mode ()
  "Install the default auto fill function, iff necessary."
  (if auto-fill-function
      (setq auto-fill-function 'do-auto-fill)))

;;}}}
;;{{{ Functions on named chunks

(defun mmm-noweb-complete-chunk ()
  "Try to complete the chunk name."
  (interactive)
  (let ((end (point))
	(beg (save-excursion
	       (if (re-search-backward "<<"
				       (save-excursion
					 (beginning-of-line)
					 (point))
				       t)
		   (match-end 0)
		 nil))))
	(if beg
	    (let* ((pattern (buffer-substring beg end))
		   (alist (mmm-names-alist (point-min) (point-max)))
		   (completion (try-completion pattern alist)))
	      (cond ((eq completion t))
		    ((null completion)
		     (message "Can't find completion for \"%s\"" pattern)
		     (ding))
		    ((not (string= pattern completion))
		     (delete-region beg end)
		     (insert completion)
		     (if (not (looking-at ">>"))
			 (insert ">>")))
		    (t
		     (message "Making completion list...")
		     (with-output-to-temp-buffer "*Completions*"
		       (display-completion-list
			(all-completions pattern alist)))
		     (message "Making completion list...%s" "done"))))
	  (message "Not at chunk name..."))))

(defvar mmm-noweb-chunk-history nil
  "History for `mmm-noweb-goto-chunk'.")

(defun mmm-noweb-goto-chunk ()
  "Goto the named chunk."
  (interactive)
  (widen)
  (let* ((completion-ignore-case t)
	 (alist (mmm-names-alist (point-min) (point-max)))
	 (chunk (completing-read
		 "Chunk: " alist nil t
		 (mmm-name-at (point))
		 mmm-noweb-chunk-history)))
    (goto-char (caadr (assoc chunk alist)))))

(defun mmm-noweb-goto-next (&optional cnt)
  "Goto the continuation of the current chunk."
  (interactive "p")
  (widen)
  (let ((name (mmm-name-at (point))))
    (if name
	(let ((list (cdr (assoc name (mmm-names-alist
				      (overlay-end mmm-current-overlay)
				      (point-max))))))
	  (if list
	      (goto-char (caar (nthcdr (1- cnt) list))))))))

(defun mmm-noweb-goto-previous (&optional cnt)
  "Goto the continuation of the current chunk."
  (interactive "p")
  (widen)
  (let ((name (mmm-name-at (point))))
    (if name
	(let ((list (reverse
		     (cdr (assoc name
				 (mmm-names-alist (point-min)
						  (overlay-start
						   mmm-current-overlay)))))))
	  (if list
	      (goto-char (cadar (nthcdr cnt list))))))))

;;}}}
;;{{{ Key mappings

(defvar mmm-noweb-map (make-sparse-keymap))
(defvar mmm-noweb-prefix-map (make-sparse-keymap))
(define-key mmm-noweb-map mmm-mode-prefix-key mmm-noweb-prefix-map)

(mmm-define-key ?d 'mmm-noweb-narrow-to-doc-chunk mmm-noweb-prefix-map)
(mmm-define-key ?n 'mmm-noweb-goto-next mmm-noweb-prefix-map)
(mmm-define-key ?p 'mmm-noweb-goto-previous mmm-noweb-prefix-map)
(mmm-define-key ?q 'mmm-noweb-fill-chunk mmm-noweb-prefix-map)
;; Cannot use C-g as goto command, so use C-s.
(mmm-define-key ?s 'mmm-noweb-goto-chunk mmm-noweb-prefix-map)

(define-key mmm-noweb-prefix-map "\t" 'mmm-noweb-complete-chunk)

;; Don't want to add to either the mmm mode map (used in other mmm
;; buffers) or the local map (used in other major mode buffers), so we
;; make a full-buffer spanning overlay and add the map there.
(defun mmm-noweb-bind-keys ()
  (save-restriction
    (widen)
    (let ((ovl (make-overlay (point-min) (point-max) nil nil t)))
      ;; 'keymap', not 'local-map'
      (overlay-put ovl 'keymap mmm-noweb-map))))

(add-hook 'mmm-noweb-class-hook 'mmm-noweb-bind-keys)

;; TODO: make this overlay go away if mmm is turned off

;;}}}

;; These functions below living here temporarily until a real place is
;; found.

(defun mmm-syntax-region-list (syntax regions)
  "Apply SYNTAX to a list of REGIONS of the form (BEG END).
If SYNTAX is not nil, set the syntax-table property of each region.
If SYNTAX is nil, remove the region syntax-table property.
See `mmm-syntax-region'."
  (mapcar #'(lambda (reg)
	      (mmm-syntax-region (car reg) (cadr reg) syntax))
	  regions))

(defun mmm-syntax-other-regions (syntax &optional name)
  "Apply SYNTAX cell to other regions.
Regions are separated by name, using either `mmm-name-at' or the
optional NAME to determine the current region name."
  (if (null name)
      (setq name (or (mmm-name-at)
		     (symbol-name mmm-primary-mode))))
  (mapcar #'(lambda (reg)
	      (if (not (string= (car reg) name))
		  (mmm-syntax-region-list syntax (cdr reg))))
	  (mmm-names-alist (point-min) (point-max))))

(defun mmm-word-other-regions ()
  "Give all other regions word syntax."
  (interactive)
  (mmm-syntax-other-regions '(2 . 0))
  (setq parse-sexp-lookup-properties t))

(defun mmm-space-other-regions ()
  "Give all other regions space syntax."
  (interactive)
  (mmm-syntax-other-regions '(0 . 0))
  (setq parse-sexp-lookup-properties t))

(defun mmm-undo-syntax-other-regions ()
  "Remove syntax-table property from other regions."
  (interactive)
  (mmm-syntax-other-regions nil)
  (setq parse-sexp-lookup-properties nil))


(provide 'mmm-noweb)

;;; mmm-noweb.el ends here

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Dmitry Gutov]

On 3/14/18 12:47 AM, Dmitry Gutov wrote:

>> Would you please email me mmm-noweb.el?  I would like to see
>> it before thinking about whether it can be an exception.
> 
> Please see the attachment.
> 
>>      and reportedly still used by some
>>      people.
>>
>> Does this mean it is almost obsolete?
> 
> I've had to deal with a couple of bug reports regarding mmm-noweb in 
> 2015, and resolved both more or less satisfactorily. So I'm guessing 
> there are people who still use it, and it won't really be obsolete until 
> Noweb goes away. I think it's still used at some universities.

Another minor reason for it to stay: Noweb and mmm-noweb.el are 
prominently mentioned in mmm-mode's README and the manual as an example 
of Literate programming and MMM's support for it.

We'd probably have to find and document a different example, then.

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Richard Stallman]

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > Another minor reason for it to stay: Noweb and mmm-noweb.el are 
  > prominently mentioned in mmm-mode's README and the manual as an example 
  > of Literate programming and MMM's support for it.

  > We'd probably have to find and document a different example, then.

Based on this, and on looking at the source file itself, I agree that
we can accept that file into Emacs without a copyright assignment.

Emacs maintainers, please keep clear records of this, and
please write to assign@gnu.org about it, cc'ing me.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
Skype: No way! See https://stallman.org/skype.html.

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:05:01 -0400
> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> Emacs maintainers, please keep clear records of this, and
> please write to assign@gnu.org about it, cc'ing me.

Sorry, I don't understand what that means in practice, but maybe John
does.

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Richard Stallman]

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > > Emacs maintainers, please keep clear records of this, and
  > > please write to assign@gnu.org about it, cc'ing me.

  > Sorry, I don't understand what that means in practice, but maybe John
  > does.

Please talk with assign@gnu.org about what to do.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
Skype: No way! See https://stallman.org/skype.html.

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Dmitry Gutov]

On 3/14/18 4:05 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:

> Based on this, and on looking at the source file itself, I agree that
> we can accept that file into Emacs without a copyright assignment.

Cool. Thank you, Richard.

> Emacs maintainers, please keep clear records of this, and
> please write to assign@gnu.org about it, cc'ing me.

I'm not sure what this entails too, but they'll have to be recorded 
inside the elpa/copyright_exceptions file either way.

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[John Wiegley]

>>>>> "RS" == Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

RS> Emacs maintainers, please keep clear records of this, and
RS> please write to assign@gnu.org about it, cc'ing me.

Do we have any such existing records? Or are these new records relating to
these exceptions?

-- 
John Wiegley                  GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F
http://newartisans.com                          60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Dmitry Gutov]

On 3/13/18 2:56 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> 1. mmm-rpm.el. It's ~20 lines, and you could consider its contents to be
>> "configuration" instead of a program. Nevertheless, it's all been written by
>> the same guy who never done copyright assignment, so it doesn't seem fair to
>> write "Copyright by Free Software Foundation" on top of it.
> 
> This can be counted as "trivial" enough not to require copyright
> paperwork, indeed.

But copyright notices are per-file, right? I expect the build process to 
be confused.

>> 2. mmm-noweb.el. It's much bigger, and reportedly still used by some
>> people. Unfortunately, the author has passed away 7 years ago, so no real
>> chance of copyright assignment.
>>
>> They are not very essential (we could release one or both separately), but
>> have them to be exceptions would make my life simpler.
> 
> I wouldn't mind making an exception for this one.

Very good. Do I push the code as is, or do I need to wait for somebody 
else's blessing, too?

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Stefan Monnier]

>> This can be counted as "trivial" enough not to require copyright
>> paperwork, indeed.
> But copyright notices are per-file, right?

BTW: As soon as we make a single change to that file, it will deserve
a "Copyright by Free Software Foundation".  What's discussed here,
rather is whether we should also keep the other copyright line.

> I expect the build process to be confused.

The only possible source of annoyance would be "make check_copyrights",
but this comes with an escape hatch (the copyright_exceptions file), so
there shouldn't be any problem.


        Stefan

Re: Exceptions for certain files in ELPA?

[Dmitry Gutov]

On 3/13/18 3:03 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> This can be counted as "trivial" enough not to require copyright
>>> paperwork, indeed.
>> But copyright notices are per-file, right?
> 
> BTW: As soon as we make a single change to that file, it will deserve
> a "Copyright by Free Software Foundation".  What's discussed here,
> rather is whether we should also keep the other copyright line.

Right, but the only change I can see myself applying to it is adding (or 
changing) the copyright line. :-)

>> I expect the build process to be confused.
> 
> The only possible source of annoyance would be "make check_copyrights",
> but this comes with an escape hatch (the copyright_exceptions file), so
> there shouldn't be any problem.

So that's okay to do. Good to know, thanks.