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Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::434 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247845 Archived-At: On 26.04.2020 18:25, Stefan Kangas wrote: > how to get more people involved in Emacs core > development, contributing to GNU ELPA, etc. Of course, nothing is > resolved with merely sending out a poll, but I imagine it would help > gauge the situation and make us feel more confident about which > direction to take I think we've had those discussion on Reddit many times before already, and some of it comes down to doing the work (e.g. setting up GitLab in a way to keep both the wolf and the sheep happy, which is a lot of work, in this case). Maybe some more, more specific questions could lead to new insights, though.