From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "after" variable watchers Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 09:42:38 +0200 Message-ID: <0d4f978a-d769-578e-e0fd-0358e729e104@gmx.at> References: <83lf8du09t.fsf@gnu.org> <3431d752-559a-7d33-e2fb-2d81dd6cc794@gmx.at> <83y2cds3g9.fsf@gnu.org> <37077232-fdf9-983c-3a34-a2334a7a8f49@gmx.at> <83sg2ho6v1.fsf@gnu.org> <400a3a6d-3fff-2eef-3fb2-0d758184bd46@gmx.at> <83pmxc86hl.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7123"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: npostavs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 06 09:43:46 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lpnRh-0001jR-B1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 09:43:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54824 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lpnRg-0006Zl-Bm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 03:43:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54732) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lpnQj-0005Qi-TA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 03:42:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:48625) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lpnQh-0002DT-Gs; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 03:42:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1622965359; bh=Zo7uqo6pg9n26yLUQUUy1ov71rUAhdPuXyOi4eLF5tY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=kcUbYV7OsDCBUJdQ1M39DLzNE0Dn5rYrQIkiMBcj+MbajLMt48DVyGpSqmNlgVW2a c5RazLqHfBiFxQZIUCKpLGjmC7ZEb9VwgpdFgwP+T1KxmUqWKBmxrt2bFM3UmGoZSB 28v//E3NqMKIA5vN5k/xoc4Y74gYJxczeqWwKccM= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([46.125.249.84]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MTRMi-1lvBBb2bam-00Tkai; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 09:42:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83pmxc86hl.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ZUP0PmG2Mcex30z+3GCBLmJB4Jv9z3YX+PH7NgXFAuRmyjT+K75 +a+qrgNMbAkbcVtpOb/sMoBn77CyLb4SsMTzBKV5VXvswhQU4Xwa5ytbOlHtIRphSzfE6l/ cSiA3sotL/5/MFtCqMXWpi4iFfElHzxwdqRiGflFHMQJFjqq4YO/Vm172+QT7SwIBfpSv1U GY4Se5LWhHWMvoCmpxJ+g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:UIcTgno+VUs=:ZhiERrkbYTXbGEZuTah3TY OgM0NFU7L7qkY+NHA8OKM+vCgY+sJGxTzqj/8WU2UguntSh+/fgmi0Hvnhw3r/ea67cab0So6 Q0GwmND8sCpBYYeYbRq4mBuSibzGcKbo32aPzYhrDv5qNS9ZjVCQmk+J154uUyjcsKK/Ua2Jq q87YpLldjuD1/bmnNUdrOyg5/n3ojaZvCcXttEwW1SvzMRhZEVc+0YS2ZBXHHeSxv6V16HGyd 9xh/ETgvrGP37T5rqRr3RKzHN8Ox2N8cgQDOlnPWolgkc3sW7zV0aKl7f1Ifgkt15w/Zzks/s 3keg1+PrrTFA8A84rxZr6HBXrnyD6xjXmAHNHvQugjio/HyJ9Rq02SqsjGYKqov1nkE+EP6Nr 9P+itKUBWbYLv+I7V4l0xinwomfis+dvqODAh/R+ampL9C9fjqCBvzbaf4aTz8oUM/odtXwM9 UYdeYaxKuHNPeOfHi3+fNsJQdmBNN0206JzD0zNEOvMJiVURYcE6TB8+hF8l75GdJFQOWtKLq YS7UyF+8JIfuqCXgLxM5gnEIQWvlXCGtKjwWfCrGA9cjIZV9HpUlxjJTjrZFCoHc9t10IrdHo y55Rk62+PUDeH6Ni/pW3ivp8bSiXj60/N2I55+Nj/jyvLNzTMgG9/F0qiI6gQNSLnj6+jAOTu qxP13YJ6r4/bYHPTwy74IT5n/RRe9UQWKZ0DRXj8UU0bhgtFudnkzFvGOFW+7ww0kqZfHrhB5 rUbF1W9uJ1uEpr4yvsLWA2OgjyZgTTW81otoaS+siE8Dwk628wdIR4PQ3NSswqvw80GSLLQX Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.22; envelope-from=rudalics@gmx.at; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: 10 X-Spam_score: 1.0 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: (1.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270467 Archived-At: > Having said that, you are the expert on this, so if you decide to do > this anyway, I won't fight you or forbid doing that. I just think we > shouldn't do this. So I'll abandon any solution based on variable watchers. Whether this permits me to install the remaining changes I planned is a question that I cannot answer yet. Thanks, martin