From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 19:40:35 +0300 Message-ID: <0ce705ec-3ee1-61fa-c8b8-9864e6e2a65a@yandex.ru> References: <83v93srwsp.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22339"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Daniel Fleischer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 26 18:41:20 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJIRK-0005Yy-Tg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 18:41:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51598 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJIRJ-00027m-JZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 12:41:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39980) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJIQk-0001Rl-N0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 12:40:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x330.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::330]:53148) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJIQi-0001HJ-Kg; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 12:40:42 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x330.google.com with SMTP id f10so2222873wml.2; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 09:40:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z7W8AZo6HtXVI9/YnAJAj7NoCVxKyLAMDppnDvrC83o=; b=o0IVTrBeizNu/fPMF9ZHHaE4K4kH7PMwP8p9r2+G9dG7YHvNRVi+jff/KD+QXZnCea AN3IUjYLT5TfV00+ZzpDafWe+/umLmYM5FaNohZVYGSY9Qk+tGu+iKKQSYqe7TJEsvzf 6vYq9PspxAAE10/4r3ZiJr9cpvA+tJYuYKsZr3agfrFSa8iXNV5VAse+AkBho28X08Wl itL90+3/Gwx28PUHA7Dwg9hk45OEsSZ2mEHLXSuvr4Ew5KTYzS0BP8VVM3N26TTXD301 C/rcdtbD8xMzrFOFBe/iMGyt2bWJQf++8cDFlI332NTaGQlzu7CK6lF4SMSHWwqEkRCw 3gGw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z7W8AZo6HtXVI9/YnAJAj7NoCVxKyLAMDppnDvrC83o=; b=Bdok3ewDp+FwLwEGSzimTIx0lgA+dzeV8/MQW3hnt2tQrUwOnYBeYBXaVmvNb4sXN/ tSX14sQSp0jzbEGjsw5mHGaPYfE4yMzFG66lCYlUMKeU8ePZ4Ucy6zQgR0Xh4grpeiU/ ndUsEjpzVkm7VmnmqQ74yl9a0CGmIBmIpXqH/d/3B5UTcjNmoyXxAFj3lvAozBLRDPlf 4Dgi5c+uGPKzhYkjiTKEgfi2HxQxpM9Z/brDZK1CsbqpLMi5MBJ3ZTdg6Xw+NYxh9/Qd D3frTVZiGglHMmDFMzLfyJhKlS3NwOJc0L38H5SxHIIyni4ncFyuSGqvLHCZsY6n+QG4 nMJA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530Z9XZpo3YovAHWsxPpl8nMw1pGJg4OHLMJnFaOY3R1SGgGpBZT VUBxgJQGuU/Q9FpADoG3rcpK5/iIX3Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxde7Bujx79xMSr6Tra5q56sfr4B+s1bewgJbN1Nuu3sXU1Ya+yzx4wBQ4IbTNY7S9/qBhc/g== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:41d4:: with SMTP id t20mr15246265wmh.92.1629996039054; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 09:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c9sm587390wrf.77.2021.08.26.09.40.37 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 26 Aug 2021 09:40:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83v93srwsp.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::330; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x330.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -34 X-Spam_score: -3.5 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.248, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273049 Archived-At: On 26.08.2021 19:32, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Daniel Fleischer >> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 19:20:36 +0300 >> >> Possible issue: >> >> 1 Being able to use Emacs for all these needs. One way is being able to >> interact with the VC system using emails, i.e. issues, features, >> discussions should have a nice and efficient email interface in >> addition to using a website. Another approach is using the wonderful >> Magit and Forge packages. Forge currently is lacking the discussions >> feature but has a very good git + pull-requests + org-mode >> integration abilities. >> 2 Changing processes, how people operate. Whether it's the technical >> aspect of a pull-request approval vs. patch submission to the more >> conceptual change of dealing with "issues" representing bugs, ideas, >> feature requests or general discussions instead of mailing lists. >> These changes shouldn't be too disruptive. However I do believe a >> small price has to be paid in order to go from one local minima of >> effort in a given practice to another, hopefully better local minima. >> >> Does this describe well the current situation? >> What areas need attention in order to facilitate the change? > At the time, someone filed an issue with GitLab with a description of > the problems we discovered. I'm quite sure the issue ID was posted > here. I suggest to find that issue and read it (unless you already > did), because AFAIR there were several aspects to it, certainly more > than just 2 you mention. https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/28152 It's pretty daunting, I'd say. And requires not only work on our side but also a number of improvements in Gitlab upstream (there are some linked discussions there on those sub-issues, but I'm assuming, best case, they are all currently waiting for volunteers).