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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252989 Archived-At: On 16.07.2020 22:57, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 21:55:48 +0300 >> >> As a maintainer of an umbrella project, you're supposed to respect the >> contributors' efforts, and especially the maintainers of subsystems who >> have more understanding about the design and purpose of said subsystems. > > I do. But sometimes I'm not convinced, the disagreement cannot be > resolved, and there's no compromise anywhere in sight; in those rare > cases I insist on my opinion. I have made plenty of compromises, some in this thread alone. You never seem to appreciate them. > That is entirely my prerogative as the > maintainer, there's nothing new here. And it is my obligation to care about the code I have in my purview to the best of my ability. Especially for the packages I created. So you might have a chance to enjoy kicking me out of the project and availing yourself to the spoils. >> That's a lot of words to say "things must be exactly as I say for the >> good of the project". The implication being that your experience is >> always best, or that you were chosen as the maintainer for being an >> expert on all aspects of Emacs (spoiler alert: that was not the reason). > > You are putting words in my mouth that I didn't say. Please don't. You just rephrased my message in your previous reply. In about as much favorable light.