From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Paul W. Rankin" via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an emacs-humanities mailing list Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 16:03:50 +1000 Message-ID: <0cb78b67cf068450753d2de1457eca4a@skeletons.cc> References: <10e79eeb32b5d8f49453fe62f145172d@skeletons.cc> <87pn3vr605.fsf@red-bean.com> <837dq3ldvh.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2ijo3tr.fsf@red-bean.com> Reply-To: "Paul W. Rankin" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26764"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Purely Mail via Roundcube/1.4.7 Cc: Karl Fogel , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 30 07:57:52 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kjd8B-0006qU-PM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 07:57:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36842 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjd8A-0003AV-Qj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 01:57:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34794) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjcIE-0004OK-Ip for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 01:04:10 -0500 Original-Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]:41526) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjcIC-00083S-4l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 01:04:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=LZs+b8ILflBcXyj/Q2eI78A/N1wZzpNWQcsGUV6LYTsgE/BW6WvX74G2l3GVJF8vu3C0TrkzoctA+ht7BjdBEDvf8Ts5iHK/uGx0hRkVAEda3yCQlA5nYC+/9OfTBs0rRoh/j4QiKIZZrktYhEkg0ih52Ys2A4mYV3o1jocSOEGCmCjIopILwbTBSM4VDtJRUR34AVtLPSGUi7XQZTvw7r2yAFFx9uSsCWHNDrW5ZIQLIuDG0JLD9ZI1m08gRMlaJah8RnmBI3ISl9VMJibPaBNVVjwr+HVzh5qe9pzQc9M6sgOw+1JfHhUAHqi5+GI9CQ7YoDGP6MKUslWtkGWKng==; s=purelymail3; d=skeletons.cc; v=1; bh=tk6I+j9S+ppig4swrLNCPL2jnAlhOUdzPNxW3BgWIWA=; h=Received:From:To; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=SEsEKdWrHUM9rCCnkY1LRqQ8Ywt7wK+jJ1TpqIyjvYND1jA57at0bMq03drHbZIFYLz07CZbYDjZWPk7fwQ5mvI52YQSy4B2cg8g8qqGPz1Xr9Sxeaz2tx74FW4fHu5huDWhULb8BWLGULu+ChNYHMs7cBN7QlncHHnvys4ittGmxUd9HHcSnuQgoM6H36hB9btjOB5jcHSYWoAWuttqvhQGgW5nQ67Zwa6zba/fQTn4L3sv3lClY2DAvd53c+SJiScHQNgpgDr+SRIfkAEoo+70UgfvvtAgSlxoVQW3CHaLQYwE9+nyLN8DclwiW3WyrtdwF4IWwGVa8Xgjh3sytQ==; s=purelymail3; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=tk6I+j9S+ppig4swrLNCPL2jnAlhOUdzPNxW3BgWIWA=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:From:To; Feedback-ID: 791:353:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: by ip-172-30-0-124.ec2.internal (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID 578076483; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 06:03:50 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Sender: pwr@skeletons.cc Received-SPF: pass client-ip=34.202.193.197; envelope-from=pwr@skeletons.cc; helo=sendmail.purelymail.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 01:56:31 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260052 Archived-At: On 2020-11-30 15:41, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Do you really think this will work? I don't, FWIW. How can a group > of people not involved with development answer non-trivial questions, > suggest reporting useful bugs and feature requests etc.? Even > help-gnu-emacs would not be the same without several developers > dwelling there. Posting to emacs-devel is a slippery path to making > this new list a branch of the existing ones, something that this > initiative wants explicitly to avoid. I'm probably missing something > here. There's no cause to worry. The three things you list -- non-trivial questions, bugs, and feature requests -- are already covered by the other lists, where diligent Emacs developers remain on guard. There exists a discussion scope outside of that scope.