From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Paul W. Rankin" via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] lisp/bookmark.el: make bookmark-fontify nil by default Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 20:06:52 +1000 Organization: By Dasein Message-ID: <0aa15bc90918a734c896e2a25da349b7@purelymail.com> References: <1df50c0d035675f851387d689030d588@purelymail.com> <87k0nw1qaq.fsf@red-bean.com> Reply-To: "Paul W. Rankin" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38548"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Purely Mail via Roundcube/1.4.10 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 18 12:29:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1liwyi-0009nX-Lw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 12:29:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37214 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1liwyh-00063O-Dq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 06:29:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42612) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1liwdB-00017N-67 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 06:07:17 -0400 Original-Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]:59042) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1liwd4-0006xi-NH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 06:07:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=dgPb+djws6c7WABf+HuaHvdxWqxnAdHxZfMibRutbqeZvsymEwHd+joNUpcVxly8KppiEEWh+fC+Ikrd7ebQbuQWeGlNxZhrLDPl21ROANSLRNoKy+vJOgNKb1n83/ty4/I7rHes10X01b1e9getY9PAT2vrln2X5qlE+VyiGzyHq3nNoegtgAZV9175zOlF56u68l1G/XCQzMJk8EFf1zwTnXO4VmJ8ILFm7Z7KIBfy9LmZ3gtfMKw2JKh9gNrqnRbXxqiFBY4724vKyolk4EV2jfjvuknj4Ul8FLGE4ziS8paiJMJb2QTTTIgssa66alwyrDeHjjhhc7ihOiqtKQ==; s=purelymail3; d=bydasein.com; v=1; bh=VA5VMECb1gUusWicUtzgC+noorHjWvCV7ZJ97W5qzWI=; h=Received:From:To; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=DA9gVqONKO426rZkokciJt0YpPL05TL6mnWkvWDc1rzo/JrhFzfYR8wovdhzzLpx468LaQJSeUQTjYKX84xK7krcl3j78en6Pf9fnArZSlvoWIqvm6PCxHsyl7nPkpTfyrIj8IPd/+UHkmQsDjkxZOcZzpfvPmsj6KLGNc6VwdAGtjBwLp8E4noUc5XCPfrqskBdz3wdWPRuH5qEEm8aA/Q/Ey4XklgZX4iK+obaVR9g/3696b9ykmybE4m9ni4HURsUhMqAltW6mDvM5pA9We/QSNLM+mascxZ65TEIiAalAH1vFbCE6TwDPBYPVqqSxHK3m/LdGqQTWNMjqu5BtQ==; s=purelymail3; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=VA5VMECb1gUusWicUtzgC+noorHjWvCV7ZJ97W5qzWI=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:From:To; Feedback-ID: 791:353:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: by ip-172-30-0-124.ec2.internal (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID -799534453; Tue, 18 May 2021 10:06:52 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Sender: pwr@bydasein.com Received-SPF: pass client-ip=34.202.193.197; envelope-from=pwr@bydasein.com; helo=sendmail.purelymail.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:269439 Archived-At: On 2021-05-18 18:45, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Please don't make this change until you hear from Lars, who examined > the original patch and decided to install it. It doesn't get more > "considerate" than that. Already done. Any objection to making this opt-in would just be contrarian. To quote your words from the aforelinked discussion -- it ought not have been introduced as t: >>> What do you think? Shall we turn bookmark-fontify off by default? >> >> I understand the current emacs policy is not to surprise anyone with >> new >> behavior, so I expect Eli Zaretskii would insist it be off by default. > > As long as people are aware of the policy, I don't even need to > insist. (Re the balance of what is considerate; that seems a bit like if one were to insist on not raising another's faux pas because this would in itself be a faux pas.)