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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug #25608 and the comment-cache branch
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 00:08:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0a40d539-b7bc-2655-5429-6280022106ee@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170203172952.GC2250@acm>

On 03.02.2017 19:29, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> The objectors do not seem to want compromise - they want comment-cache
> to be wholly abandoned.

It's silly to seek a compromise between implementations. Rather, we 
should discuss hard requirements (with some test cases).

And then we should seek the simplest solution that satisfies all of our 
requirements.

> They object to it for reasons I don't
> understand, despite the fact that it elegantly solves a long standing
> problem that continues to cause pain on a frequent basis.

Elegance is in the eye of the beholder. It certainly doesn't seem 
elegant to me, design-wise.

> If you (or anybody else) could summarize what these objections are, I'd
> be very grateful.

"It introduces a second source of truth" seems like a concise summary.

At best, it'll use more memory than it has to. At worst, we risk 
divergence in the information contained in those sources (so functions 
depending on one or the other will behave in incompatible fashion). That 
means nasty bugs that aren't easy to track down.

> Note that there has been NO constructive criticism of comment-cache.

That's insulting, Alan.

> Nobody is pointing out problems it causes or might cause.

And that's false.



  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-03 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-02 20:24 Bug #25608 and the comment-cache branch Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-02 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 21:51   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-02 22:15     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-03  7:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-03 17:29       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-03 22:08         ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2017-02-04 10:24           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06  2:09             ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-06 19:24               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-07  1:42                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-07 19:21                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-14 15:28                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-14 16:38                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-22  2:25                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-22  3:53                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-23 14:23                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-23 14:48                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-24  7:46                                 ` Tom Tromey
2017-02-14 21:14                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-16 14:10                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-18 10:44                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-18 13:49                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12  2:53               ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  8:20                 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-12 10:47                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 11:14                 ` martin rudalics
2017-02-12 15:05                   ` Andreas Röhler
2017-02-12 15:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 22:00       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06  1:12         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-06 18:37           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-08 17:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-11 23:25           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12  0:55             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 12:05               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 13:13                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2017-02-12 15:57                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-12 17:29                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 20:35                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-13  1:47                     ` zhanghj
2017-02-13  5:50                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13  6:45                         ` zhanghj
2017-02-13  7:24                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13  7:59                             ` zhanghj
2017-02-13  9:25                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13 16:14                           ` Drew Adams
2017-02-13  7:05                         ` zhanghj
2017-02-13  7:16                         ` zhanghj
2017-02-13 14:57                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-12 17:49                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13 18:09                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-13 19:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-13 21:21                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-02 22:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-03 16:44   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-03 21:53     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-04 11:02       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06  1:28         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-06 19:37           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06  2:08         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-06 20:01           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06 22:33             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-07 21:24               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-08 12:54                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-07 15:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-07 21:09               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-08 17:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 23:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 16:19   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-04  9:06     ` Andreas Röhler
2017-02-04 18:18     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-04 18:28       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-03  7:49 ` Yuri Khan
2017-02-03 18:30   ` Andreas Röhler

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