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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:316281 Archived-At: > On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:29=E2=80=AFPM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 > We don't yet have examples of such packages, I think.=20 The idea would be to establish such a category. Some user-facing note could= be included =E2=80=94 =E2=80=9CThis package will be removed from core Emacs= in a future version, and is available on ELPA at XYZ=E2=80=9D. Could even l= eave a =E2=80=9Cstub=E2=80=9D behind pointing there after final removal.=20 > And in this case, we intend to move IDLWAVE out precisely because it is ob= solete, Not necessarily, depending on how one defines obsolete. Just =E2=80=9Cno lon= ger worth keeping in core=E2=80=9D.