On 10 Nov 2005, at 19:34, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> This patch ensures that menu items are disabled when they should be,
>> i.e. when there is no applicable visible and non-iconified frame.
>
> Could you explain why this is needed?  If there's no visible frame,
> the menu isn't visible as well, so no one will notice that the menu
> items are enabled.
>
> Or am I missing something?

Yes you are :)

Menus are not always inside frames. On my machine, they're on top and  
perfectly accessible when there is no window...

I think we already have a few frame-live-p/frame-visible-p checks in  
menu-bar, they're just not very complete.

- D