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From: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Clough <jeff@chaosphere.com>,
	Christian Lynbech <christian@defun.dk>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: mailclient-send-it usage of browse-url
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:55:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0C8DC8D9-F68F-41CA-B7ED-B9C37FD88834@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2vdbu67m0.fsf@defun.dk>

On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Christian Lynbech wrote:
> 
> While it could be that emacs-w3m does not do the right thing with
> mailto, it is still so that one cannot really know what `browse-url'
> really points to.

Well, that's Emacs, or Lisp, if you will.  You never know how a function is implemented...  Users/third-party packages can override a lot.

> Wouldn't it be a solution to just directly do what `browse-url' was
> normally expected to do rather than relying on the user or the
> third-party package having set everything up correctly?

Have a look at browse-url.el.  What would this be?
It's entirely system-dependent, so stopping short of replicating the code that determines `browse-url-browser-function', one could

(let ((browse-url-browser-function (default-value 'browse-url-browser-function)))
   (browse-url mailto-url))

If you're set up correctly, this would let the system handle the mailto URL, and the system would give control back to Emacs, because Emacs is your mail client.  And there you have your infinite loop again - it's just a wider loop.

The real problem here lies in the design.  `send-mail-function' is supposed to specify a function that sends e-mail off without further user interaction.  Because we can't do that out-of-the-box, we have to do something at a different level in the "control hierarchy": call the mail client and let the user edit the e-mail again (which is what mailto URLs lead to).
 
Perhaps we need a mechanism to leave send-mail-function nil by default, yet allow bug reporting functions to go through the mail client by default.

Or, one would set up a trivial little script on Savannah to receive a bug report by HTTP and then send the mail off.  That's roughly how most modern software solves the problem.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-14 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-13 19:51 mailclient-send-it usage of browse-url Christian Lynbech
2010-04-13 22:06 ` David Reitter
2010-04-14  3:22   ` Christian Lynbech
2010-04-14 11:41     ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-14 13:07       ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 13:25         ` David Reitter
2010-04-15  7:46           ` christian.lynbech
     [not found]             ` <C8D541C4-F87C-48F8-917C-5A4C6AC02203@mit.edu>
2010-04-15 16:49               ` chad
2010-04-14 13:36         ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-14 16:02           ` David Reitter
2010-04-14 16:35             ` Chad Brown
2010-04-14 16:41             ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-14 17:46               ` David Reitter
2010-04-14 23:19                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-15  2:28                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-15  7:52                   ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15 17:13                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-15 18:48                     ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-16  8:05                       ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-17 19:55                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-14 19:58           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-14 14:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-15  8:14           ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 12:55     ` David Reitter [this message]
2010-04-14 13:20       ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 13:30         ` David Reitter
     [not found] <D6FDF877-2199-48E7-8B06-4E6325EDEAC9@mit.edu>
2010-04-15 16:49 ` Fwd: " chad
2010-04-15 17:15   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-15 17:22     ` Chad Brown
2010-04-15 19:00       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-16  0:14     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-16  0:34       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-16  1:08         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-16 11:13           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-16 12:49             ` Stefan Monnier

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